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Braukuche
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 Posted: Mon May 16, 2022 6:52 am Post subject: Re: Introducing Joan! |
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I was getting 'Schooled" on what might be incorrect for a 1967 Karmann Ghia  |
Sounds like a good reason to avoid VW specific shows. |
Nooo, they're fun, especially if you've got something unusual on your car like a supercharger. Back in the late '90s there were probably only 2 on the UK show circuit. I never corrected anyone, it was fun to listen the high-flying theories.  |
I’ve already had a run in with my local. Posted a request on their Facebook page for anyone interested in a small Ghia Gathering in my end of the state and made the mistake of saying that it seemed that most shows were on the other end.
Hoo boy did the sparks fly! Seems I hit a nerve concerning show placement. It also seemed they thought I was trying to set up another official show on my own. Jeez, was just trying to check out Ghias around me.
So you might see why I am a little reticent to meet up in person.
I’m even a little concerned just posting this tale! |
I’ve done a few impromptu Ghia and Bus gatherings in my day by posting on the Samba forums. Told people when and where and who showed up showed up. Car clubs are sometimes lame, too many politics, too many weirdos wanting to be a big fish in a microscopic pond.
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Marcdeb
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| Posted: Mon May 16, 2022 8:19 am Post subject: Re: Introducing Joan! |
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The Terryville CT Bug-A-Fair which is only a one day event sounds like a nice gathering. it's coming up on June 19th. (Father's Day). Last year they had 312 show cars, 80 vendors, and over 1200 spectators. They get quite a nice sampling of Ghia's according to their online information. I'm planning to go.
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68 Karmann Ghia Cabrio Autostick
71 Karmann Ghia Cabrio
Previously Owned:
2011 VW EOS Hard Top Conv
2008 Saab 9-3 2.0T Conv
2003 Saab 9-3 SE Conv
2001 Saab 9-3 Conv
1998 BMW 3 Series Conv
1997 Saab 900 Conv
1997 Mazda Miata
68 Ghia Vert Survivor with 22,350 miles: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=768107&highlight=
71 Ghia Vert Restoration: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=726710&postorder=asc |
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Trylon
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| Posted: Mon May 16, 2022 8:34 am Post subject: Re: Introducing Joan! |
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| The Terryville CT Bug-A-Fair which is only a one day event sounds like a nice gathering. it's coming up on June 19th. (Father's Day). Last year they had 312 show cars, 80 vendors, and over 1200 spectators. They get quite a nice sampling of Ghia's according to their online information. I'm planning to go. |
Well if YOU’RE going, let’s meet up!
Fun to have a functioning Ghia eh?
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Marcdeb
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| Posted: Mon May 16, 2022 8:49 am Post subject: Re: Introducing Joan! |
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| The Terryville CT Bug-A-Fair which is only a one day event sounds like a nice gathering. it's coming up on June 19th. (Father's Day). Last year they had 312 show cars, 80 vendors, and over 1200 spectators. They get quite a nice sampling of Ghia's according to their online information. I'm planning to go. |
Well if YOU’RE going, let’s meet up!
Fun to have a functioning Ghia eh? |
I was hoping you were going to be there so we can meet up. Hopefully there'll be some othesr we know ?
I won't have Regatta with me though. It's a long drive for a car that I have not had a chance to break in. It will have to stay close to home until I've had the chance to make sure everything is reliable. I've put almost 50 miles on it so far though and other then the generator light situation, she's looking pretty reliable.
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68 Karmann Ghia Cabrio Autostick
71 Karmann Ghia Cabrio
Previously Owned:
2011 VW EOS Hard Top Conv
2008 Saab 9-3 2.0T Conv
2003 Saab 9-3 SE Conv
2001 Saab 9-3 Conv
1998 BMW 3 Series Conv
1997 Saab 900 Conv
1997 Mazda Miata
68 Ghia Vert Survivor with 22,350 miles: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=768107&highlight=
71 Ghia Vert Restoration: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=726710&postorder=asc |
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Trylon
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| Posted: Mon May 16, 2022 9:05 am Post subject: Re: Introducing Joan! |
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| The Terryville CT Bug-A-Fair which is only a one day event sounds like a nice gathering. it's coming up on June 19th. (Father's Day). Last year they had 312 show cars, 80 vendors, and over 1200 spectators. They get quite a nice sampling of Ghia's according to their online information. I'm planning to go. |
Well if YOU’RE going, let’s meet up!
Fun to have a functioning Ghia eh? |
I was hoping you were going to be there so we can meet up. Hopefully there'll be some othesr we know ?
I won't have Regatta with me though. It's a long drive for a car that I have not had a chance to break in. It will have to stay close to home until I've had the chance to make sure everything is reliable. I've put almost 50 miles on it so far though and other then the generator light situation, she's looking pretty reliable. |
I think we are hijacking this thread… let’s move to email.
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kingkarmann
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| Posted: Mon May 23, 2022 9:58 am Post subject: Re: Introducing Joan! |
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Joan is HOT!!
Actually Joan has been running hot.
Last week when I got home from out club meeting I grabbed the dipstick. Too hot to handle. I have a meat thermometer with a 14" probe. I inserted it into the tube. Pegged at 220 ! 
I checked to make sure the thermostat was operating properly. Flaps and thermostat were operating as intended.
The next thing I thought of was my tune-up.
After reviewing the info in the Bentley and additional info in the Performance/engine forums I'm fairly confident I really messed it up 
First of all I'm pretty sure I confused the two pulley marks believing the left mark was TDC and the right was 7.5
Thanks to the Samba brain trust I discovered the left mark is 7.5 degrees before TDC. The right is 10 before.
When I static timed it I'm pretty sure I set it at TDC instead of 7.5 degrees before TDC. Add to that don't think I disconnected the vacuum and plugged the port on the carb. I believe the result was timing that was waayy to advanced. That would lead to a hot condition.
So, I static timed to 7.5 degrees before TDC, started her up and ran to operating temp.
This time I remembered to disconnect the vacuum line and plug the port on the carburetor.
Final results:
7.5 degrees before TDC @ 850 rpm. vacuum disconnected
10 degrees before TDC @ 850 rpm Vacuum re-connected
Approx. 28 degrees total advance at 2500/3000 rpm.
Dwell Angle 50 degrees.
Took her for a spirited drive. Dare I day she runs even better and so far not as hot.
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Trylon
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| Posted: Mon May 23, 2022 10:35 am Post subject: Re: Introducing Joan! |
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Been there!
They run better timed correctly, don’t they?
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kingkarmann
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| Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2022 3:01 pm Post subject: Re: Introducing Joan! |
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We are just a couple of weeks away from the Ault Park Concours in Cincinnati.
I believe I’ve done everything I’m going to do to ready her.
She will be in the “Contemporary Sports” class. Strange but I guess that’s where the selection committee thinks she best fits.
As I was going over the interior I noticed the bolts for the seat belt receiver “hoop” looked wrong. They were.
Maybe they got misplaced somewhere during the restoration.
Anyhow I found the correct and unique to 67 shoulder bolts and matches wave washers from Bug City.
These special bolts and washers allow the hoop to pivot on the tunnel.
The bolt on the left is correct.
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Marcdeb
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| Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2022 5:34 pm Post subject: Re: Introducing Joan! |
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You are really paying attention to detail and putting her back to original. Nice!
I find it interesting how the seat belt hardware changed from year to year and even came brought back to older styles on some years. Is it possible that some years had more than one style of seat belt hardware? As in optional seat belts..?
Your 67 has the chrome loop on the tunnel.
My 68 has the black receiver with white unlocking levers on the tunnel, and non retractable belts. Yet the 68 owners manual shows retractable belts with the chrome loop on the tunnel.
The 69 owners manual shows exactly what is on my 68????? But I don't know if that is what we would find on an original 69?
Don't have info on the 1970 but my 71 however has gone back to the chrome loop on the tunnel like your 67. Very confusing.
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68 Karmann Ghia Cabrio Autostick
71 Karmann Ghia Cabrio
Previously Owned:
2011 VW EOS Hard Top Conv
2008 Saab 9-3 2.0T Conv
2003 Saab 9-3 SE Conv
2001 Saab 9-3 Conv
1998 BMW 3 Series Conv
1997 Saab 900 Conv
1997 Mazda Miata
68 Ghia Vert Survivor with 22,350 miles: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=768107&highlight=
71 Ghia Vert Restoration: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=726710&postorder=asc |
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Trylon
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| Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2022 6:09 pm Post subject: Re: Introducing Joan! |
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Thought it might be fun to visit Bug City one day.
Then I found out he no longer keeps a store.
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kingkarmann
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| Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2022 6:29 am Post subject: Re: Introducing Joan! |
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You are really paying attention to detail and putting her back to original. Nice!
I find it interesting how the seat belt hardware changed from year to year and even came brought back to older styles on some years. Is it possible that some years had more than one style of seat belt hardware? As in optional seat belts..?
Your 67 has the chrome loop on the tunnel.
My 68 has the black receiver with white unlocking levers on the tunnel, and non retractable belts. Yet the 68 owners manual shows retractable belts with the chrome loop on the tunnel.
The 69 owners manual shows exactly what is on my 68????? But I don't know if that is what we would find on an original 69?
Don't have info on the 1970 but my 71 however has gone back to the chrome loop on the tunnel like your 67. Very confusing. |
I know, it's confusing.
I think sometimes the folks responsible for editing the owners manuals had difficulty keeping up with the changes.
Is the shape of your 71 hoop the same as a 67?
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kingkarmann
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| Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2022 6:32 am Post subject: Re: Introducing Joan! |
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Thought it might be fun to visit Bug City one day.
Then I found out he no longer keeps a store. |
I didn't realize they don't have a shop.
Anyhow they seem to have a great selection of hard to find parts albeit geared to Beetles.
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Marcdeb
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| Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2022 11:41 am Post subject: Re: Introducing Joan! |
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You are really paying attention to detail and putting her back to original. Nice!
I find it interesting how the seat belt hardware changed from year to year and even came brought back to older styles on some years. Is it possible that some years had more than one style of seat belt hardware? As in optional seat belts..?
Your 67 has the chrome loop on the tunnel.
My 68 has the black receiver with white unlocking levers on the tunnel, and non retractable belts. Yet the 68 owners manual shows retractable belts with the chrome loop on the tunnel.
The 69 owners manual shows exactly what is on my 68????? But I don't know if that is what we would find on an original 69?
Don't have info on the 1970 but my 71 however has gone back to the chrome loop on the tunnel like your 67. Very confusing. |
I know, it's confusing.
I think sometimes the folks responsible for editing the owners manuals had difficulty keeping up with the changes.
Is the shape of your 71 hoop the same as a 67? |
I actually have 3 hoop catches. I have 2 just like yours and that is what came in 71's. It's strange that they would change to a newer design and then go back to the older one.
I think you mentioned a few weeks back that 67 was the first year that had all carpeting without rubber matts. I don't recall exactly if that's what you stated, but my 68 is missing all the mats and has aftermarket black mats in the front and no mats at all in the back. I thought it would have had rubber mats at first until I read your post.
Interestingly, a few days ago, I drove Regatta over to a friends who wanted to see the car. Like I mentioned, I knew there was no mats but we happen to be on the passenger side and I lifted up the aftermarket mat and there underneath was an original rubber mat! I was pretty happy to see this. Now, I'm curious what would have come on the floors in 68? Rubber mats, or carpet mats that match the rest of the carpeting? And were rubber mats continued as options?
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68 Karmann Ghia Cabrio Autostick
71 Karmann Ghia Cabrio
Previously Owned:
2011 VW EOS Hard Top Conv
2008 Saab 9-3 2.0T Conv
2003 Saab 9-3 SE Conv
2001 Saab 9-3 Conv
1998 BMW 3 Series Conv
1997 Saab 900 Conv
1997 Mazda Miata
68 Ghia Vert Survivor with 22,350 miles: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=768107&highlight=
71 Ghia Vert Restoration: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=726710&postorder=asc |
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kingkarmann
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| Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2022 12:26 pm Post subject: Re: Introducing Joan! |
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| kingkarmann wrote: |
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You are really paying attention to detail and putting her back to original. Nice!
I find it interesting how the seat belt hardware changed from year to year and even came brought back to older styles on some years. Is it possible that some years had more than one style of seat belt hardware? As in optional seat belts..?
Your 67 has the chrome loop on the tunnel.
My 68 has the black receiver with white unlocking levers on the tunnel, and non retractable belts. Yet the 68 owners manual shows retractable belts with the chrome loop on the tunnel.
The 69 owners manual shows exactly what is on my 68????? But I don't know if that is what we would find on an original 69?
Don't have info on the 1970 but my 71 however has gone back to the chrome loop on the tunnel like your 67. Very confusing. |
I know, it's confusing.
I think sometimes the folks responsible for editing the owners manuals had difficulty keeping up with the changes.
Is the shape of your 71 hoop the same as a 67? |
I actually have 3 hoop catches. I have 2 just like yours and that is what came in 71's. It's strange that they would change to a newer design and then go back to the older one.
I think you mentioned a few weeks back that 67 was the first year that had all carpeting without rubber matts. I don't recall exactly if that's what you stated, but my 68 is missing all the mats and has aftermarket black mats in the front and no mats at all in the back. I thought it would have had rubber mats at first until I read your post.
Interestingly, a few days ago, I drove Regatta over to a friends who wanted to see the car. Like I mentioned, I knew there was no mats but we happen to be on the passenger side and I lifted up the aftermarket mat and there underneath was an original rubber mat! I was pretty happy to see this. Now, I'm curious what would have come on the floors in 68? Rubber mats, or carpet mats that match the rest of the carpeting? And were rubber mats continued as options? |
I’m pretty sure 68’s had rubber mats installed.
67’s also had rubber mats from the factory although both of mine are carpeted. That might have been how you picked up on the switch from rubber to carpets.
I owned a driver quality stock 1970 coupe back in the early 90’s.
It had rubber floors too.
I’m thinking factory carpet might have started in 1972?
I’m sure someone can answer. Inquiring minds (me) want to know
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Braukuche
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| Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2022 11:53 pm Post subject: Re: Introducing Joan! |
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| Marcdeb wrote: |
| kingkarmann wrote: |
| Marcdeb wrote: |
You are really paying attention to detail and putting her back to original. Nice!
I find it interesting how the seat belt hardware changed from year to year and even came brought back to older styles on some years. Is it possible that some years had more than one style of seat belt hardware? As in optional seat belts..?
Your 67 has the chrome loop on the tunnel.
My 68 has the black receiver with white unlocking levers on the tunnel, and non retractable belts. Yet the 68 owners manual shows retractable belts with the chrome loop on the tunnel.
The 69 owners manual shows exactly what is on my 68????? But I don't know if that is what we would find on an original 69?
Don't have info on the 1970 but my 71 however has gone back to the chrome loop on the tunnel like your 67. Very confusing. |
I know, it's confusing.
I think sometimes the folks responsible for editing the owners manuals had difficulty keeping up with the changes.
Is the shape of your 71 hoop the same as a 67? |
I actually have 3 hoop catches. I have 2 just like yours and that is what came in 71's. It's strange that they would change to a newer design and then go back to the older one.
I think you mentioned a few weeks back that 67 was the first year that had all carpeting without rubber matts. I don't recall exactly if that's what you stated, but my 68 is missing all the mats and has aftermarket black mats in the front and no mats at all in the back. I thought it would have had rubber mats at first until I read your post.
Interestingly, a few days ago, I drove Regatta over to a friends who wanted to see the car. Like I mentioned, I knew there was no mats but we happen to be on the passenger side and I lifted up the aftermarket mat and there underneath was an original rubber mat! I was pretty happy to see this. Now, I'm curious what would have come on the floors in 68? Rubber mats, or carpet mats that match the rest of the carpeting? And were rubber mats continued as options? |
I’m pretty sure 68’s had rubber mats installed.
67’s also had rubber mats from the factory although both of mine are carpeted. That might have been how you picked up on the switch from rubber to carpets.
I owned a driver quality stock 1970 coupe back in the early 90’s.
It had rubber floors too.
I’m thinking factory carpet might have started in 1972?
I’m sure someone can answer. Inquiring minds (me) want to know |
72-74 had carpet, but you could also order rubber mats.
71 down for sure had mats.
Airhead makes really nice black ones for a very reasonable price. I have a set in my 70 convertible.
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Retirement is here!
1956 Ghia
1959 SO-23 Westfalia
1960 double cab
1960 Baja Bug
1963 stretched double cab
1962 Golde sunroof Ghia
1963 356 B coupe
1963 Notchback
1967 21 window less rusty now |
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Marcdeb
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| Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2022 4:43 am Post subject: Re: Introducing Joan! |
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I've looked at Airheads and will likely order a set and remove the original on the passenger side to preserve it. I'm waiting to see if I get a reply from the PO first. Maybe the missing mats are sitting in her warehouse?
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68 Karmann Ghia Cabrio Autostick
71 Karmann Ghia Cabrio
Previously Owned:
2011 VW EOS Hard Top Conv
2008 Saab 9-3 2.0T Conv
2003 Saab 9-3 SE Conv
2001 Saab 9-3 Conv
1998 BMW 3 Series Conv
1997 Saab 900 Conv
1997 Mazda Miata
68 Ghia Vert Survivor with 22,350 miles: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=768107&highlight=
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kingkarmann
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| Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2022 8:50 am Post subject: Re: Introducing Joan! |
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Sunday is Joan’s big day!
A good buddy fellow VW enthusiast are leaving at 6am for the roughly 100 mile drive to the Cincinnati Concours at Ault Park.
I’m very excited and just a bit nervous.
https://ohioconcours.com/
I’ve prepared her to the best of my abilities.
Here’s a 9 minute video preview of Joan if anyone cares to watch.
I apologize in advance for my lack of videography skills and narration abilities😀
Link
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