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modok Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2009 Posts: 26785 Location: Colorado Springs
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Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2021 9:17 pm Post subject: Re: Dummy Learns Transaxle |
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The stud needs to go in the right depth, not a specific torque.
But if it won't go in far enough with 6 ft-lbs.... clean the threads. |
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Bruce Samba Member
Joined: May 16, 2003 Posts: 17285 Location: Left coast, Canada
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Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2021 11:42 pm Post subject: Re: Dummy Learns Transaxle |
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Casting Timmy wrote: |
Bruce doesn't comment as much, not sure I've seen Gears comment much later either. |
I don't seem to have much time lately to visit this site. Maybe I check things out once or twice a month. _________________
overheard at the portland Swap Meet... wrote: |
..... a steering wheel made from a mastadon tusk..... |
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Bruce Samba Member
Joined: May 16, 2003 Posts: 17285 Location: Left coast, Canada
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Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2021 11:45 pm Post subject: Re: Dummy Learns Transaxle |
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you're not done yet. You have the side covers on the wrong side. The aluminum one you have on the starter side should be on the other side, it's way stronger than the Mag one. _________________
overheard at the portland Swap Meet... wrote: |
..... a steering wheel made from a mastadon tusk..... |
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bigbore Samba Member
Joined: December 19, 2003 Posts: 3297 Location: Wasilla Alaska
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Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2021 11:48 pm Post subject: Re: Dummy Learns Transaxle |
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yep thats right------------or wrong-----------------------or --------maybe --------------ya swop them. _________________ where its cold and snowy |
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Deweyoop2 Samba Member
Joined: February 05, 2011 Posts: 27 Location: Las Vegas,NV
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Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2021 2:45 pm Post subject: Re: Dummy Learns Transaxle |
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Hey guys is it a bad idea to use a wire brush on the transmission case and the gear carrier case to clean it all up? |
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bigbore Samba Member
Joined: December 19, 2003 Posts: 3297 Location: Wasilla Alaska
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Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2021 3:13 pm Post subject: Re: Dummy Learns Transaxle |
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People do that. _________________ where its cold and snowy |
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Clatter Samba Member
Joined: September 24, 2003 Posts: 7537 Location: Santa Cruz
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Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2021 8:10 pm Post subject: Re: Dummy Learns Transaxle |
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Picked up a few tools today.
_________________ Bus Motor Build
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bigbore Samba Member
Joined: December 19, 2003 Posts: 3297 Location: Wasilla Alaska
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Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2021 8:45 pm Post subject: Re: Dummy Learns Transaxle |
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OH that looks expensive let me guess -------------------3000 that mite be low but a good deal. just that diff tool is big bucks. _________________ where its cold and snowy |
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Deweyoop2 Samba Member
Joined: February 05, 2011 Posts: 27 Location: Las Vegas,NV
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Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2021 1:33 am Post subject: Re: Dummy Learns Transaxle |
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Hey guys what’s the best kind of grease to use when doing a rebuild of the transaxle? |
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bigbore Samba Member
Joined: December 19, 2003 Posts: 3297 Location: Wasilla Alaska
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Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2021 2:09 am Post subject: Re: Dummy Learns Transaxle |
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some use just gear oil I don't I use lubriplate assembly lube been my fav for 50 years. _________________ where its cold and snowy |
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Deweyoop2 Samba Member
Joined: February 05, 2011 Posts: 27 Location: Las Vegas,NV
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Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2021 2:20 am Post subject: Re: Dummy Learns Transaxle |
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bigbore wrote: |
some use just gear oil I don't I use lubriplate assembly lube been my fav for 50 years. |
Thanks bigbore I appreciate the advice it’s been a big help for my rebuild. Most of what I’m learning during this rebuild I coming from the Bentley book and from what I can gleam from the OG transaxle builders. |
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Clatter Samba Member
Joined: September 24, 2003 Posts: 7537 Location: Santa Cruz
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Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2021 3:11 pm Post subject: Re: Dummy Learns Transaxle |
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bigbore wrote: |
OH that looks expensive let me guess -------------------3000 that mite be low but a good deal. just that diff tool is big bucks. |
What would you say if i told you a guy basically gave those to me? _________________ Bus Motor Build
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Clatter Samba Member
Joined: September 24, 2003 Posts: 7537 Location: Santa Cruz
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Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2021 3:17 pm Post subject: Re: Dummy Learns Transaxle |
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Been out of town on the Great Trans Tool Expedition;
came back to the machinist having done some more fine work..
My first stab a welding a hub on *seems* to have gone OK.
Made sure to grind big relief for weld,
But could have done more to keep things cool.
Had the face surface ground - just enough to get it flat and clean it up.
Also clearanced for the hub as per Weddle.
See also chamfered oiling holes - later polished up a bit while chucked in the lathe to smooth any burrs and aid oiling.
The hub got faced equally each side to -just- clear two 091 snap-rings.
Hopefully, I'm doing this right.
Guess we'll find out here soon enough... _________________ Bus Motor Build
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Clatter Samba Member
Joined: September 24, 2003 Posts: 7537 Location: Santa Cruz
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Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2021 3:28 pm Post subject: Re: Dummy Learns Transaxle |
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Bruce wrote: |
You have the side covers on the wrong side.. |
DOH!
Thanks for showing up here Bruce, much appreciated.
Send me a bill! _________________ Bus Motor Build
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bigbore Samba Member
Joined: December 19, 2003 Posts: 3297 Location: Wasilla Alaska
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Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2021 5:37 pm Post subject: Re: Dummy Learns Transaxle |
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Clatter wrote: |
bigbore wrote: |
OH that looks expensive let me guess -------------------3000 that mite be low but a good deal. just that diff tool is big bucks. |
What would you say if i told you a guy basically gave those to me? |
if so I NEED friends like that. yep you need welding practice alright it will probley hold. So Iam guessing you are going to run early grears with a 091 shaft there are pro's and con's. _________________ where its cold and snowy |
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Clatter Samba Member
Joined: September 24, 2003 Posts: 7537 Location: Santa Cruz
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Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2021 8:14 pm Post subject: Re: Dummy Learns Transaxle |
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Ya, after looking at a few welded gears on here I decided to have a go at it.
Gave it three tacks and it was still cool enough you could handle the gear with bare hands.
Instead of shutting off the welder and letting it cool clear down,
I hit it with three more heavy tacks and blued it up a bit.
At that point you couldn’t hardly pick it up with regular gloves.
Still turns free on the shaft with a bearing - no lumpy.
Will do the next one with more patience..
Shaft is a 9-tooth regular splined Beetle.
091 snap ring trick is to help keep the hub from creeping under heavy load and taking away clearance for oil.
If I’m understanding it..
Other mods are to put the early gear on the late splined hub with later 002 slider.
Stop washer is thicker to work with later slider.
I had the hub pressed down tight to the washer before welding,
But it loosened -just- enough to turn with friction afterwards.
Hoping that’s still OK.. _________________ Bus Motor Build
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bigbore Samba Member
Joined: December 19, 2003 Posts: 3297 Location: Wasilla Alaska
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Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2021 8:26 pm Post subject: Re: Dummy Learns Transaxle |
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you could have used a later 002 gear they came welded from the factory. I was wondering about the shaft I didn't think you could put a 091 shaft in a 002. _________________ where its cold and snowy |
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Clatter Samba Member
Joined: September 24, 2003 Posts: 7537 Location: Santa Cruz
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Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2021 12:06 pm Post subject: Great Trans Tool Expedition |
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Ok, yeah, i prattle on and on.. But here's a great story so I'll tell it!
And, come ON! How does this goofy TOAD end up with all those trans fixtures!?!
Certainly Mike isn't the only one who can appreciate this...
You guys can grasp what you're looking at here, right?
I'm still having trouble!
Here's how it all started..
Since i've been pouring thru any/all transaxle builds anywhere,
This one came up as a stellar example:
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=491932&highlight=transaxle
Decided to reach out to the author and see how his trans was doing ten years later,
And,
Since he had two of the VW 352 straps, maybe he'd sell me one?
Turns out James is a super nice guy, his all aluminum ( badass/built ) 091/1 is still working perfectly, and he wouldn't mind selling me a tool or two.
Since i was driving my dear mother from Denver to Phoenix for the season, i had one day free in Phoenix.
Upon arriving, i was humbled to see a vehicle like this one.
Simply killer SVX conversion..
Check this out.
Still clean underneath after ten years.
Was so into geeking out on this Van that i didn't even notice what was on the bench.
But then my heart sank... He certainly knew what he had.
Everything in the pile on the right is still available new special order from Snap On,
And James wanted to sell the whole lot.
Plus, he had current prices printed out and attached..
Total for the parts still available was around $4700.
God only knows how much all that NLA stuff is worth.
Was thinking "Hey, at least i got to see all these tools live and in person"..
Before i left to see him I'd borrowed $200 from my Mom.
Also got $300 out of the cash machine on the way, and had $58 in my wallet.
I thought maybe he would sell me the 456a stand or the 352 strap? Maybe?
He just said "take it all"..
Needless to say, i was completely floored.
This is WAY more than what you really need to get through a few trans builds.
Plus, he even started digging out a few other things i might need..!
It was really hard to comprehend that it all was real and happening.
Was kind of floating, as a dream or something..
Hard to describe the feeling, like i won the lottery..
Anyways, i got it all home and tried to look up what these even are and how you use them.
Didn't want to ignore my dear mother during one of our rare visits,
but managed to try and squirrel away the stuff i'd need soonest in my suitcase and carry-on.
A few big things i packed in a dog-food box.
After a tense flight home wondering what they might seize or lose,
it all made it.
Yes, they opened and inspected it..
So,
Yeah..
Mr. James Pate kindly went and basically GAVE me everything to rebuild VW transaxles, especially Bus and Vanagon.
Already gearing up to do a couple for friends and pass the good will along..
The brotherhood takes care of it's own.
i'll try to be worthy and pay it forward. _________________ Bus Motor Build
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Clatter Samba Member
Joined: September 24, 2003 Posts: 7537 Location: Santa Cruz
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Xevin Samba Member
Joined: January 08, 2014 Posts: 7624
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Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2021 2:08 pm Post subject: Re: Great Trans Tool Expedition |
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Clatter wrote: |
So,
Yeah..
Mr. James Pate kindly went and basically GAVE me everything to rebuild VW transaxles, especially Bus and Vanagon.
Already gearing up to do a couple for friends and pass the good will along..
The brotherhood takes care of it's own.
i'll try to be worthy and pay it forward. |
This is why I love VWs. “The Brotherhood” and the generosity of people helping people. Now back to more technical stuff I don’t understand _________________ Keep on Busin'
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GFY's Xevin and VW_Jimbo! |
Clatter wrote: |
Damn that Xevin... |
skills@eurocarsplus wrote: |
I respect Xevin and he's a turd |
SGKent wrote: |
My God! Xevin and I 100% agree |
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