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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2021 3:22 pm    Post subject: IF I had a "Do Over" card... Reply with quote

So, we have all made "improvements" or modifications to our Vans.

If you had a "Do Over" card, what would you NOT do again?

For me, job 1 ...... Jeep Wrangler outside mirrors.
They worked just fine but for the effort involved? I'd choose a different path.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2021 3:45 pm    Post subject: Re: IF I had a "Do Over" card........ Reply with quote

I haven’t had the van long enough to give much useful input, but I installed a GoWesty Aux battery kit. It didn’t work with my Subie conversion, so I installed a far superior ACR system.
For the number of Subaru conversions there are, you’d think GoWesty would put a disclaimer on the description indicating that it doesn’t work with a Subaru alternator.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2021 3:57 pm    Post subject: Re: IF I had a "Do Over" card........ Reply with quote

Not sure why the GW kit wouldn’t work with a Subaru. Alternators are alternators, regardless of national origin.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2021 4:07 pm    Post subject: Re: IF I had a "Do Over" card........ Reply with quote

In looking back on all of the Vanagons I have owned, the common "do over" theme is that I wouldn't have spent any time/money on fixing/maintaining any of the stock engines and instead would have promptly converted each of them to mTDI.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2021 4:08 pm    Post subject: Re: IF I had a "Do Over" card........ Reply with quote

CessnaJon wrote:
Not sure why the GW kit wouldn’t work with a Subaru. Alternators are alternators, regardless of national origin.

The regulators are different, the 'Alt Light' output in the Subie alternators is higher impedance and so cannot provide enough current to turn on the fridge relay which turns on the GW solenoid. Easy work-around, feed the fridge relay from the X circuit instead.

Likewise though, I moved from a GW kit to an ACR with a far bigger LA battery, then moved onto the 300Ah 'infinity' LFP battery system with DC-DC charger etc.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2021 4:17 pm    Post subject: Re: IF I had a "Do Over" card........ Reply with quote

?Waldo? wrote:
In looking back on all of the Vanagons I have owned, the common "do over" theme is that I wouldn't have spent any time/money on fixing/maintaining any of the stock engines and instead would have promptly converted each of them to mTDI.


Similar. I wouldn't have spend my time looking for a JX. I would have just bought any diesel and done the conversion. Bonus points for buying one with a bad gear box if it has to be rebuilt anyways. Oh well, next time I guess.

I would have also bought a used TDI locally and converted it to mTDI myself versus getting a expensive, yet utterly defective, one from that endor. I did do that the next time.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2021 4:39 pm    Post subject: Re: IF I had a "Do Over" card... Reply with quote

I would have installed a 3 window tent years ago.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2021 5:13 pm    Post subject: Re: IF I had a "Do Over" card... Reply with quote

djkeev wrote:
If you had a "Do Over" card, what would you NOT do again?


it would probably be doing the 'home runs' using nicopp for the fuel lines. even with the engine and trans out it was an epic bitch to do and not kink the lines let alone put protection on anything that ran thru a frame rail.

i'm gad i did it, but you couldn't pay me enough to do it again.

the other 'do over' would be adding a/c to the OE heater box and making a drop in unit that you can close off the outside air too. i plan on doing this when i get some free time. i know i can do it
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2021 5:37 pm    Post subject: Re: IF I had a "Do Over" card... Reply with quote

The time and money I spent on acquiring and maintaining Vanagon rectangular European E-Code glass headlights. Broken glass, rusty reflectors, crappy buckets, broken aiming screws, bad wiring, burnt out bulbs, blah blah blah. A bunch of old crap!

Once I put in the JW Speaker 7" rounds (with a 1985 grille and GW buckets), the churn stopped. They have been the best lights. I have not had to think about them since I installed them, except to say to myself, "gosh, I'm glad I installed these JW Speaker 7" rounds."

Also: any time or effort spent on the Westy water tank level sender. What a terrible system. There are so many alternatives. I ripped out the OEM junk and modeled my new sender/gauge after this setup.

Also #2: the OEM poptop vent. Replaced it three times, each time due to rust and rattling. What junk. Maxxfan.

Also #3: the gauges! How terrible. Speedhut.

I should just go offline now. I keep thinking of the terrible systems I replaced, and it's annoying to realize how numerous they are.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2021 6:07 pm    Post subject: Re: IF I had a "Do Over" card... Reply with quote

I wouldn't cut the entire rear quarter off to fix the bad lower section. Aligning large body panels is tricky and requires really good attention to detail. An 1/8" out means the sliding door inside handle rubs the body.

At least I learned my lesson on the passenger side for the driver side which has no sliding door.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2021 6:37 pm    Post subject: Re: IF I had a "Do Over" card... Reply with quote

I would buy wheels that fit rather than adapting Audi wheels that nearly fit.
Because I got them for $25 each.
I had to buy spacers and install longer studs.
And the hubcaps cost $20 each.
They ended up costing as much as wheels that simply bolt on.

I’m happy with the look though; and they are kinda classical. 👍🏽👍🏽
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2021 7:21 pm    Post subject: Re: IF I had a "Do Over" card... Reply with quote

I can't think of anything. Even my overreach on the engine swap was fun to do and I learned a lot along the way. That's the only thing I'm going to do over but I still don't regret it.
Crappy auto parts store tint maybe...not that tough to scrape off.
I don't regret the six sets of cool ass wheels but I would like to find time to complete refinishing and assembling them.
Thanks to Chris Schimke and his sizing advice, Mellow Cat for helping me out in my first couple years of ownership and Kirsplat for wrench assist and hosting engine swap #1.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2021 7:48 pm    Post subject: Re: IF I had a "Do Over" card... Reply with quote

My regrets are mostly focused on my engine swap. Since I chose the road less traveled and built nearly everything associated with the swap myself, I didn't really have much of a template to guide my designs. In retrospect, I think I would've used the stock Mk4 engine mount underneath the cam pulley, and redesigned the trans mount to look more like a Syncro, with a dogbone mount to deal with lateral motions. I also would've mounted the exhaust entirely to the drivetrain, and not the body. And most of all, I would've converted the van to automatic at the time of the swap.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2021 7:55 pm    Post subject: Re: IF I had a "Do Over" card... Reply with quote

Since I paddled and open whitewatercanoe that weighed 54lbs, and my buddy paddled a whitewater kayak that weighed about 40 lbs, I installed the heavy duty Jackbombay Poptop shock. Even with that we had to work togerher to pop the top with the boats on. Without the boats, I had to put my full weight on the poptop bar to pull the top down. I ended up with the rivets in one of the poptop hinges poping loose, and issue that was solved with a short bot and fiber locking nut. Then I found the other hinge on the other side was all bent up and needed to be straightened. and the best way to do that was to cut and weld it. Needless to say, I don't carry that much weight and expect to raise the top anymore. There are limits. I now have the medium weight struts and I remove my canoe before raising the top. I think it was more the bringing it down with all my weight that did the damage.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2021 10:52 pm    Post subject: Re: IF I had a "Do Over" card... Reply with quote

I went mTDI. With todays mind I would go eTDI however it was a cheaper and easier solution then.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 07, 2021 4:55 am    Post subject: Re: IF I had a "Do Over" card... Reply with quote

I regret not buying a spare syncro transmission when they were readily available and cheap, but my biggest VW regret is selling my 61 mango/seagull bus for $2000. Sad
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 07, 2021 5:58 am    Post subject: Re: IF I had a "Do Over" card... Reply with quote

Crankey wrote:
I can't think of anything. Even my overreach on the engine swap was fun to do and I learned a lot along the way. That's the only thing I'm going to do over but I still don't regret it.
Crappy auto parts store tint maybe...not that tough to scrape off.
I don't regret the six sets of cool ass wheels but I would like to find time to complete refinishing and assembling them.
Thanks to Chris Schimke and his sizing advice, Mellow Cat for helping me out in my first couple years of ownership and Kirsplat for wrench assist and hosting engine swap #1.
SIX SETS OF WHEELS?..... Shocked Shocked Smile Smile Smile Razz
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 07, 2021 6:02 am    Post subject: Re: IF I had a "Do Over" card... Reply with quote

I regret not buying more Mefro Steel Wheels when they were available, along with the plastic hub caps that fit them.
I was trying to save money with just 1 set of Five wheels when I switch over to 15" tires, and just swap out the All Season Tires to the Snow Tires when it was time, all on one set of rims, instead of my usual practice of having tires mounted on rims ,ready to go when it was time for the seasonal swap like with our other vehicles.

Now I need to decide what other 15" rims to get since the Mefro's are gone I guess from production. Think Think
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 07, 2021 6:03 am    Post subject: Re: IF I had a "Do Over" card... Reply with quote

If I'd known when I bought my van how much I'd enjoy it as a camping/adventure rig, I probably would have held off and bought a stock camper that was more sorted from the get-go. Meaning, spending around 20k rather than 3k up front, which would probably be about the same out-of-pocket if I am honest with myself/budget.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 07, 2021 6:40 am    Post subject: Re: IF I had a "Do Over" card... Reply with quote

#1 Don't buy a 1.6CS for £2400 which was more rust than van.
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