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malcolm2
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 Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 4:05 am Post subject: Vent window frame seal. |
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What is it called? I saw a video on YouTube while looking for something else.
Seems to be a rubber sheet. Stretch over the edge of the glass and slide it in the frame. Cut the excess. Can’t recall if glue was used on either or both side. I don’t believe so.
While installing the window and seal in the frame, I suppose I loosened the hold and the glass just came out.
Probably a good thing. The 50 year old rubber was old and crusty.
Who sells it?
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malcolm2
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| Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 5:21 am Post subject: Re: Vent window frame seal. |
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As luck would have it, I found the video. It is from Air Head parts and they put a part # on the intro.  but almost everyone that sells the stuff is out. I will have to keep searching.
Some vendors say it requires special tools or a glass expert. Does this group agree with that?
221-845-295A
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AshC
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| Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 5:59 am Post subject: Re: Vent window frame seal. |
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I did this job and the Ratwell article was invaluable: https://www.ratwell.com/technical/CabDoor.html
If diving-in to the cab door procedure given at the vent wing stage do make sure to get the window off the lifter, to the bottom and as far back in the door as you can, before removing (wiggling out) the vent wing and make sure its out of the way when it goes back in.
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AshC
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| Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 6:11 am Post subject: Re: Vent window frame seal. |
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BTW, I'm not sure now which vent you are fixing... I now see that isnt a cab door vent wing seal in the video - some kind of side window I dont have. The cab vent wing seal is formed and needs no gluing. There's actually a main piece and a vertical piece and both easily sourced.
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malcolm2
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| Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 7:16 am Post subject: Re: Vent window frame seal. |
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I am doing what the video shows but on the door vent. The triangle shape.
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AshC
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| Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 7:32 am Post subject: Re: Vent window frame seal. |
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| malcolm2 wrote: |
| I am doing what the video shows but on the door vent. The triangle shape. |
As in this one (or the right one): https://www.heritagepartscentre.com/uk/241837625-front-quarter-window-seal-left.html
(vent wings are known as quarter lights this side of the pond)
As per the Ratwell article there is one of these (no glue) + a vertical on the inside and then a vertical track for the window on the back of the vent wing frame.
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| Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 11:41 am Post subject: Re: Vent window frame seal. |
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Oh I see (duh!) we are re-fitting the glass here not changing the frame seals!
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| Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 2:06 pm Post subject: Re: Vent window frame seal. |
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| AshC wrote: |
| Oh I see (duh!) we are re-fitting the glass here not changing the frame seals! |
Yes. It seems that either job is not fun.
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| Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 2:19 pm Post subject: Re: Vent window frame seal. |
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the glass shop that did my vent windows used a strip of rubber on each piece of glass. You can get it from glass shops that do car windows.
The technician used clean motor oil on the rubber, then draped it around the glass vent and slid it in, trimming it with a razor blade carefully not to scratch the glass once the rubber swelled up. About 3 to 4 hours later the motor oil had swollen the rubber enough that it locked the glass in place. The technician suggested I could do it myself, and he would give me a piece of the rubber strip to do it, however I paid him to do it. This is a local automotive and other glass shop. In 2010 that technician had been installing glass in cars at that shop for about 40 years, the shop has been around since 1963.
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| Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 2:55 pm Post subject: Re: Vent window frame seal. |
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| SGKent wrote: |
the glass shop that did my vent windows used a strip of rubber on each piece of glass. You can get it from glass shops that do car windows.
The technician used clean motor oil on the rubber, then draped it around the glass vent and slid it in, trimming it with a razor blade carefully not to scratch the glass once the rubber swelled up. About 3 to 4 hours later the motor oil had swollen the rubber enough that it locked the glass in place. The technician suggested I could do it myself, and he would give me a piece of the rubber strip to do it, however I paid him to do it. This is a local automotive and other glass shop. In 2010 that technician had been installing glass in cars at that shop for about 40 years, the shop has been around since 1963. |
That is pretty much how that guy did it on the video. I heard about the oil trick.
I wonder why all the online places make a big deal about special equipment?
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| Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 3:04 pm Post subject: Re: Vent window frame seal. |
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| malcolm2 wrote: |
| I wonder why all the online places make a big deal about special equipment? |
The frames on split bus and early bugs are quite flimsy and it's a real job to get them pressed on without bending the f**k out of it, or having one end squirt out while you get the other in, thickness of the rubber may also play a part.
It depends on your skill level and experience too.
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malcolm2
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| Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2021 5:33 am Post subject: Re: Vent window frame seal. |
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This link is interesting.... everyone chiming in on how they did it. perfect.
One of the youtube videos had a great idea tho. Chris Vallone at about 7:40 he gets into a very simple method. just cut strips of the rubber material and put it in maybe 4 places around the glass. Then use some nice high quality, BLACK caulk to fill in between the strips. I think he said silicone.
At least I know that is an option for when I get tired of struggling.
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