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vanagonjr Samba Member
Joined: October 07, 2010 Posts: 3431 Location: Dartmouth, Mass.
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Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2021 4:59 am Post subject: Re: Our '85 fix-up-and-enjoy Vanagon |
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danfromsyr wrote: |
that story is so nice I had to read it twice.. |
I agree. I hadn’t kept up. Read it all with morning breakfast. Nice to read good news for a change.
Great job on the wheels, BTW. It’s a great look.
( I may have missed it, but don’t forget those Radius Rods that Skillz mentioned).
Your past VW’s are pretty awesome too. _________________ John - 86 Wolfsburg Westfalia "Weekender"
Flint reversed 1.8T W/Passat 5-Speed
LiMBO (late model bus club) www.limbobus.org
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The Pilch Samba Member
Joined: December 04, 2013 Posts: 628 Location: Utah
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Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2021 8:42 pm Post subject: Re: Our '85 fix-up-and-enjoy Vanagon |
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DuncanS wrote: |
I'm no body man, but plan to fill my nose road rash paint acne with Nitro Stan.
https://www.azautobodysupply.com/nistspandglp1.html
A tip I just taught myself. Do not throw out the junk mail letters that say you are pre approved for this insurance/credit card etc. which come with a dummy card. Save them for spreading body putty or Nitro Stan.
Duncan |
Hahaha it's funny you say that Duncan - we have a recycling trash can, and we can never remember which week they come to empty them in our neighborhood, so it just sits there full of paper and cardboard - mostly letters that told me I was pre approved for stuff!!
I am about to go educate myself on Nitro Stan....cheers mate. _________________ '85 Vanagon GL, weekender package, 1.9 wbx named Freddie/ '61 Beetle named Ringo/ '78 Dodge Monaco which is nothing like the Bluesmobile so please don't cast that oily rag upon it. |
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The Pilch Samba Member
Joined: December 04, 2013 Posts: 628 Location: Utah
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Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2021 8:46 pm Post subject: Re: Our '85 fix-up-and-enjoy Vanagon |
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vanagonjr wrote: |
danfromsyr wrote: |
that story is so nice I had to read it twice.. |
I agree. I hadn’t kept up. Read it all with morning breakfast. Nice to read good news for a change.
Great job on the wheels, BTW. It’s a great look.
( I may have missed it, but don’t forget those Radius Rods that Skillz mentioned).
Your past VW’s are pretty awesome too. |
Thank you kind sir! We shall get the bushes and all the safety stuff done once budget allows, for sure! _________________ '85 Vanagon GL, weekender package, 1.9 wbx named Freddie/ '61 Beetle named Ringo/ '78 Dodge Monaco which is nothing like the Bluesmobile so please don't cast that oily rag upon it. |
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The Pilch Samba Member
Joined: December 04, 2013 Posts: 628 Location: Utah
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Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2021 9:01 pm Post subject: Re: Our '85 fix-up-and-enjoy Vanagon |
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Well, hellooooooo from a cold dark garage in Utah!!!
I obtained a proper mask, none of those paper covid ones. I'm going to wear this down Walmart...
This evening, I added another coat of bed liner to what I've already done. I won't bore you with pics of that. Then, as I am at the nose....I took Freddies face off!
Here's the aforementioned fourteen million rock chips...
That's proper annoying. But I do have a brand new unopened pouch of spot putty in my stash, which I'll use to try and smooth this boghorror out. I'll continue the bed liner around the front.
Then I shoved a bunch of cardboard from my recycle trash can into the radiator areas to avoid dust and paint going in there. Doesn't he look handsome...
Tomorrow, I'm going fishing, and upon my return with a fabulous score of rainbow trout, I shall begin the task of sorting out Freddies Face! _________________ '85 Vanagon GL, weekender package, 1.9 wbx named Freddie/ '61 Beetle named Ringo/ '78 Dodge Monaco which is nothing like the Bluesmobile so please don't cast that oily rag upon it. |
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DuncanS Samba Member
Joined: October 17, 2013 Posts: 4583 Location: New Hampshire
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Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2021 5:39 am Post subject: Re: Our '85 fix-up-and-enjoy Vanagon |
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I assume the bed liner will stay below the side marker lights and the lower radiator. I realize the line seems that it wants to keep going, but I'm nervous about a nice clean new color for the entire rest of the front and then an abrupt change to something not shiny and then shiny again with the bumper How about a Projektxtwo addition which would define the change all the way across? Seems like that might be a solution. Or stop it at the back edge of the bumper end caps? Or maybe the front edge since they are black too. They could get the same bed liner treatment. Maybe bed liner the entire bumper? In any case Freddie deserves a proper Christmas present, so perhaps the Projektxtwo unit?
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The Pilch Samba Member
Joined: December 04, 2013 Posts: 628 Location: Utah
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Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 8:50 pm Post subject: Re: Our '85 fix-up-and-enjoy Vanagon |
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Thanks for the pic Duncan! That looks pretty sweet right there! I was kinda fixed on the bed liner following the same line around the front, just for simplicity sake really. But you are right about Freddie deserving a proper Christmas present I like GoWesty bumpers.......sold out. _________________ '85 Vanagon GL, weekender package, 1.9 wbx named Freddie/ '61 Beetle named Ringo/ '78 Dodge Monaco which is nothing like the Bluesmobile so please don't cast that oily rag upon it. |
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The Pilch Samba Member
Joined: December 04, 2013 Posts: 628 Location: Utah
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Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 9:05 pm Post subject: Re: Our '85 fix-up-and-enjoy Vanagon |
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Saturday, while wifey went to work, I finally got back up to Tibble Fork in American Fork Canyon, Utah...
Managed to bring in four of these. Water levels very low this year and many trout were dying off. This is a tiddler!
Get back on topic!!!!!!!!!!!!
So I had a couple of hours before wifey came home, and just wanted a break from sanding. My hands are mashup from 100, 320, 400 and red scotchbrite the last few weeks. So I pondered hmmmm what can I do that's productive and only costs $12.99? That's right, I grabbed a rattle can of metallic blue, somewhere in the ballpark of Freddie's OG color, and blasted out a test area.
Pointless, I hear you say..well, I do partly agree, but not really. We are still unsure of the color to use. I've had some experience spraying, and one thing is for certain, I am not blessed with the talent for spraying metallics. My metallic practice panels looked like Tony the Tiger from the Frosted Flakes packets....but this metallic blue from Duplicolor went well. I think wifey has another idea...but I am trying to force the issue of not having to repaint the door jams. We shall see. This was overall a good food-for-thought/eye-candy exercise. I can also see where dents are and now if only I could get my stud welder back.
Hope you all had a glorious weekend. Cheerio for now! _________________ '85 Vanagon GL, weekender package, 1.9 wbx named Freddie/ '61 Beetle named Ringo/ '78 Dodge Monaco which is nothing like the Bluesmobile so please don't cast that oily rag upon it. |
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Povi Samba Member
Joined: January 15, 2016 Posts: 16 Location: Kernersville, NC
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Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2021 5:24 am Post subject: Re: Our '85 fix-up-and-enjoy Vanagon |
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I had luck with Ford's Windveil Blue Metallic. It's a Mustang color. It seems a better match for the 85' and 86', not so much for the 89'. I got it from an ebay vendor. I've also bought "dove blue" from two different ebay vendors and they weren't even close. Greenish tint
Cheers! _________________ 89' Westy Subaru 2.2 |
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djkeev Samba Moderator
Joined: September 30, 2007 Posts: 32632 Location: Reading Pennsylvania
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dobryan Samba Member
Joined: March 24, 2006 Posts: 16505 Location: Brookeville, MD
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Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2021 7:05 am Post subject: Re: Our '85 fix-up-and-enjoy Vanagon |
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djkeev wrote: |
I too used to end up with metallic stripes.
The flake just wouldn't lie randomly for me.
About 30 years ago I mentioned it to a buddy who told me two things.
(1) If you don't have a mixer spray gun cup, it is imperative that you constantly shake your gun while spraying to keep the metallics in suspension.
(2) Forget what you learned about painting and keeping a wet edge in a nice neat fashion.
Basically spray randomly, so that those watching you paint will think that you've completely lost your mind!
Spray to the sides, spray up, spray down, spray in circles ..... maintaining an even distance from the Vehicle and constantly shaking the gun.
Sounds crazy I know.... I sure thought so when he told me...... but it works.
Dave |
Yep. When I sprayed the '87 Titian Red I sprayed up/down, side-to-side, and at 45degrees while always sloshing the gun every few seconds. Since the metal flakes never fully mix into the paint they get sprayed out in spurts if not kept agitated. _________________ Dave O
'87 Westy w/ 2002 Subaru EJ25 and Peloquin TBD
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DuncanS Samba Member
Joined: October 17, 2013 Posts: 4583 Location: New Hampshire
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Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2021 9:11 am Post subject: Re: Our '85 fix-up-and-enjoy Vanagon |
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Yr front bumper is in such good shape, I'd keep it. You have the rubber for both sides and the end caps are all in one piece..................... Well the end caps look like......end caps. There is nothing wrong with the chrome bumper ending where it does. Of course we all wish it went around the corners as well and doesn't look like somebody was trying to save money and just tossed a little plastic at it. My guess the way this happened is somebody was trying to save money and just tossed a little plastic at it. There is no reason why some wood couldn't get whittled into a decent shape that was flush with the chrome and was painted the bed liner color. Or maybe a plastic bumper with the side wings could be bed linered.
This car doesn't have side cladding, but does on the front door. I'll bet if you used just the bumper itself with no door cladding and had the whole shebang bed linered, it would look great. You wouldn't need the air dam side pieces, although they might need to be there to continue the line. Note also his full length lower grill. Very snappy. The fiberglass bumper is a little higher so there would be no obvious bed liner on the nose.
Not a fan of aftermarket welded bumper 'cause of the sharp corners which don't appear anywhere else on the body. I might even explore a sculpted oak bumper which went around the corners and got the bed liner treatment.
So many choices.
Duncan
P.S. Air dams increase fuel mileage and......... decrease global warming?????? |
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DuncanS Samba Member
Joined: October 17, 2013 Posts: 4583 Location: New Hampshire
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Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2021 9:19 am Post subject: Re: Our '85 fix-up-and-enjoy Vanagon |
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And if Freddie gets a nice Christmas present with the Projektxtwo unit then certainly this has to go in his stocking.
https://www.amazon.com/BRISA-Collection-Volkswagen-Windscreen-Accessories/dp/B082Q19H5K?th=1
The color is even correct. |
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Red Ryder Samba Member
Joined: June 26, 2021 Posts: 952 Location: Northern California
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Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2021 9:38 am Post subject: Re: Our '85 fix-up-and-enjoy Vanagon |
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+1 for air dams!
_________________ “Most everyone’s mad here. You may have noticed I am not quite all there myself.” — Cheshire Cat, Adventures of Alice in Wonderland
“Scarlett” — 1990 Vanagon Carat Wolfsburg Edition
Tornado Red |
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DuncanS Samba Member
Joined: October 17, 2013 Posts: 4583 Location: New Hampshire
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Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2021 11:24 am Post subject: Re: Our '85 fix-up-and-enjoy Vanagon |
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Look at how clean the nose of that car is!! No road rash or peeling clear coat. I hate you.
But I win on the license plate enclosure. Nayah, ya nayah, naaaayah ya.
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Red Ryder Samba Member
Joined: June 26, 2021 Posts: 952 Location: Northern California
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Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2021 10:39 pm Post subject: Re: Our '85 fix-up-and-enjoy Vanagon |
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DuncanS wrote: |
Look at how clean the nose of that car is!! No road rash or peeling clear coat. I hate you.
But I win on the license plate enclosure. Nayah, ya nayah, naaaayah ya.
Duncan |
Euro-spec headlights for the win! _________________ “Most everyone’s mad here. You may have noticed I am not quite all there myself.” — Cheshire Cat, Adventures of Alice in Wonderland
“Scarlett” — 1990 Vanagon Carat Wolfsburg Edition
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DuncanS Samba Member
Joined: October 17, 2013 Posts: 4583 Location: New Hampshire
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Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2021 6:28 am Post subject: Re: Our '85 fix-up-and-enjoy Vanagon |
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Not so fast, Red. First of all, the headlights are Sylvania Silver Star sealed beams which were $20 apiece. How much did your Euro spec ones cost. Yeah, yours are probably better at seeing the deer farther out, but with my NHL hockey goalie reflexes I'm cool. (Actually, I have some of the worst reactions times ever. My brain/muscle control works on dial-up speeds and I was terrible at almost any sports.) AND, I'll concede your high beams seem far cleaner than mine, although I did clean them later and they look much better now.
But............. Lower grill. Beat this!
Ignore the bumper/door cladding extension. Even my OCD ruled it out as too complicated and prone to road crud jamming.
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Red Ryder Samba Member
Joined: June 26, 2021 Posts: 952 Location: Northern California
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Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2021 9:43 am Post subject: Re: Our '85 fix-up-and-enjoy Vanagon |
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DuncanS wrote: |
Not so fast, Red. First of all, the headlights are Sylvania Silver Star sealed beams which were $20 apiece. How much did your Euro spec ones cost. Yeah, yours are probably better at seeing the deer farther out, but with my NHL hockey goalie reflexes I'm cool. (Actually, I have some of the worst reactions times ever. My brain/muscle control works on dial-up speeds and I was terrible at almost any sports.) AND, I'll concede your high beams seem far cleaner than mine, although I did clean them later and they look much better now.
But............. Lower grill. Beat this!
Ignore the bumper/door cladding extension. Even my OCD ruled it out as too complicated and prone to road crud jamming.
Duncan |
OK. I will admit my headlights did cost a bit more than $20 each! But you still out do me for creativity!😉👍 _________________ “Most everyone’s mad here. You may have noticed I am not quite all there myself.” — Cheshire Cat, Adventures of Alice in Wonderland
“Scarlett” — 1990 Vanagon Carat Wolfsburg Edition
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DuncanS Samba Member
Joined: October 17, 2013 Posts: 4583 Location: New Hampshire
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Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2021 11:58 am Post subject: Re: Our '85 fix-up-and-enjoy Vanagon |
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Creativity, schmreativity--Your paint job and nose detail with fog lamps et al make for a really beautiful T3.
I know that The Pilch will get there as well. Fun to watch him with his progress and obvious enjoyment of the process. Lots of others are enjoying the vicarious experience too. 5225 hits on his topic and 96 following and replying.
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The Pilch Samba Member
Joined: December 04, 2013 Posts: 628 Location: Utah
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Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2021 7:21 pm Post subject: Re: Our '85 fix-up-and-enjoy Vanagon |
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Povi wrote: |
I had luck with Ford's Windveil Blue Metallic. It's a Mustang color. It seems a better match for the 85' and 86', not so much for the 89'. I got it from an ebay vendor. I've also bought "dove blue" from two different ebay vendors and they weren't even close. Greenish tint
Cheers! |
Thanks for the info brother, that's perfect! Superior Paint in Salt Lake City are fantastic to work with so I'll give them that name and voila....I'll update when I've done it. _________________ '85 Vanagon GL, weekender package, 1.9 wbx named Freddie/ '61 Beetle named Ringo/ '78 Dodge Monaco which is nothing like the Bluesmobile so please don't cast that oily rag upon it. |
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The Pilch Samba Member
Joined: December 04, 2013 Posts: 628 Location: Utah
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Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2021 7:25 pm Post subject: Re: Our '85 fix-up-and-enjoy Vanagon |
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djkeev wrote: |
I too used to end up with metallic stripes.
The flake just wouldn't lie randomly for me.
About 30 years ago I mentioned it to a buddy who told me two things.
(1) If you don't have a mixer spray gun cup, it is imperative that you constantly shake your gun while spraying to keep the metallics in suspension.
(2) Forget what you learned about painting and keeping a wet edge in a nice neat fashion.
Basically spray randomly, so that those watching you paint will think that you've completely lost your mind!
Spray to the sides, spray up, spray down, spray in circles ..... maintaining an even distance from the Vehicle and constantly shaking the gun.
Sounds crazy I know.... I sure thought so when he told me...... but it works.
Dave |
That's good advice Dave thank you sir. It definitely goes against anything I've been taught - I was taught in a sign shop how to paint large flat surfaces using single stage, and it's most certainly come in handy for projects such as the lime green 67, but it has, as you say, no relevant methodology with regards to the dreaded metallic. Makes me wonder how on earth do the buggy guys get that big metal flake to look good! _________________ '85 Vanagon GL, weekender package, 1.9 wbx named Freddie/ '61 Beetle named Ringo/ '78 Dodge Monaco which is nothing like the Bluesmobile so please don't cast that oily rag upon it. |
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