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PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2022 6:20 pm    Post subject: Re: 1966 Ghia coupe restoration Reply with quote

Tomorrow is going to be an exciting day. After being separated for many months, the pan and body are going to be re-united. I just installed the German pan seal tonight, using 3M Super Black and original style upholstery tacks (which no one will ever see, but I'll know they're there just like when the car rolled off the assembly line). I still need to cut holes in the seal for the body mount bolts, but I'll do that in the morning before the tow arrives

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2022 8:55 am    Post subject: Re: 1966 Ghia coupe restoration Reply with quote

Congrats, it’s a huge step. I was planning on reuniting mine today but I chopped off the tip of my finger cutting kohlrabi. Look forward to pictures.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2022 6:07 pm    Post subject: Re: 1966 Ghia coupe restoration Reply with quote

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Congrats, it’s a huge step. I was planning on reuniting mine today but I chopped off the tip of my finger cutting kohlrabi. Look forward to pictures.


Ouch! Shocked I hope your finger's ok
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2022 6:09 pm    Post subject: Re: 1966 Ghia coupe restoration Reply with quote

Some final shots of the chassis by itself. Could be the last time, or at least for hopefully a very long time, that this chassis is body-less

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2022 6:10 pm    Post subject: Re: 1966 Ghia coupe restoration Reply with quote

On the way to get the body

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2022 6:12 pm    Post subject: Re: 1966 Ghia coupe restoration Reply with quote

Back together again.
It was lots of: ok slowly, stop stop stop, shift a hair left, ok go, no stop, a little this way, etc

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2022 6:14 pm    Post subject: Re: 1966 Ghia coupe restoration Reply with quote

Back home

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And now the fun begins. I have a feeling I'm going to start digging through the boxes of parts I took off the car, and very little is going to pass the test to go back on. The hardware in particular. Is there an actual list of nut, bolt, and screw sizes for everything, or do most people just use whatever fits?

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2022 7:02 pm    Post subject: Re: 1966 Ghia coupe restoration Reply with quote

This is moving along nicely. Putting the body and pan back together would certainly make me a nervous wreck, especially with this beautiful paint job. Great work. Looks amazing. Anxious to see it all back together.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2022 8:26 pm    Post subject: Re: 1966 Ghia coupe restoration Reply with quote

I try to use all original hardware, I just clean it up on the wire wheel on my grinder and paint it if it’s supposed to be painted. There’s not much of it and not much variety.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2022 10:00 pm    Post subject: Re: 1966 Ghia coupe restoration Reply with quote

I don't think they got this much care and attention at the factory. Nice work! This is where the marathon enters the stadium and the finish line is in sight

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....or do most people just use whatever fits?


I can only speak for myself... I had bags of nuts and bolts that I reused after cleaning them up as best I could. I lost a bunch when I had them acid dipped and learned the hard way that the acid ruins them. The best method I've since learned is to thoroughly degrease them and send them away to get "blacked" again.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2022 10:37 am    Post subject: Re: 1966 Ghia coupe restoration Reply with quote

X3, I reuse all the original hardware. Like Dan, wire brush paint or clear. I hate seeing Chinese bolts on a German car. Pet Peeve.
Congrats on getting the two back together, progress!!
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2022 4:48 pm    Post subject: Re: 1966 Ghia coupe restoration Reply with quote

It really starts to look like a Ghia once those nose grills are in Very Happy

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2022 4:53 pm    Post subject: Re: 1966 Ghia coupe restoration Reply with quote

I hadn't replaced these 60-69 tail light seals before, and man they are a bit of a wrestling match to get them fitted on the lens.

I'm sure some of y'all know this, but I discovered that the best order of op for these is: seal onto lens, lens onto lighting housing, then the entire assembly onto the car.

I had initially put the lighting housing onto the car first, before installing the lens with seal, and I couldn't get the seal to fit flush against the body that way. But installing the lens onto the lighting housing before it all goes onto the body, everything fit flush and perfect.

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98 Porsche Boxster, silver, 2.5L -- 67 Karmann Ghia, Black, 1500sp -- 98 BMW Z3, Atlanta Blue Metallic, 2.8L I6 -- 75 Porsche 914, Laguna Blue, 2270cc -- 72 Porsche 914, Signal Orange, 1.7 FI -- 74 Karmann Ghia, Black, 1600dp -- 74 Triumph TR6 with O.D., sapphire blue
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2022 5:35 pm    Post subject: Re: 1966 Ghia coupe restoration Reply with quote

Will you still drill through the new paint and the body filler to open up the two M6 holes for the rear bumper overrider struts? You can barely see the hole locations in this photo-
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2022 6:21 pm    Post subject: Re: 1966 Ghia coupe restoration Reply with quote

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Will you still drill through the new paint and the body filler to open up the two M6 holes for the rear bumper overrider struts? You can barely see the hole locations in this photo


Nope, I ended up having them closed up the correct way, no filler. I'm installing Euro bumpers. I'm not a fan of how the US overriders look.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2022 9:36 pm    Post subject: Re: 1966 Ghia coupe restoration Reply with quote

OK. I saw a later photo while at the body shop with a skim of filler over the hole area, which was my clue that it was filled that way. Euro bumpers will look good against the blue color.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2022 6:26 am    Post subject: Re: 1966 Ghia coupe restoration Reply with quote

Rome wrote:
OK. I saw a later photo while at the body shop with a skim of filler over the hole area, which was my clue that it was filled that way. Euro bumpers will look good against the blue color.


It was an oversight on my part. There was so much focus on the front of the car with the nose swap, that I completely forgot about having those holes deleted when I gave them the go ahead to move on from the metalwork. Caught it at the last minute
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2022 8:33 am    Post subject: Re: 1966 Ghia coupe restoration Reply with quote

Era Vulgaris wrote:
I hadn't replaced these 60-69 tail light seals before, and man they are a bit of a wrestling match to get them fitted on the lens.

I'm sure some of y'all know this, but I discovered that the best order of op for these is: seal onto lens, lens onto lighting housing, then the entire assembly onto the car.

I had initially put the lighting housing onto the car first, before installing the lens with seal, and I couldn't get the seal to fit flush against the body that way. But installing the lens onto the lighting housing before it all goes onto the body, everything fit flush and perfect.

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Nice ass shot.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2022 6:09 pm    Post subject: Re: 1966 Ghia coupe restoration Reply with quote

Braukuche wrote:

Nice ass shot.


Cool
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2022 6:08 pm    Post subject: Re: 1966 Ghia coupe restoration Reply with quote

Does anyone know what the size and thread pitch of the mounting nuts are for Blaupunkt radios? Are they the same size as for Sapphire radios?

My Blaupunkt didn't come with any. There's some people in the classifieds selling mounting nuts for Sapphires. Was curious if they're the same or not.
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98 Porsche Boxster, silver, 2.5L -- 67 Karmann Ghia, Black, 1500sp -- 98 BMW Z3, Atlanta Blue Metallic, 2.8L I6 -- 75 Porsche 914, Laguna Blue, 2270cc -- 72 Porsche 914, Signal Orange, 1.7 FI -- 74 Karmann Ghia, Black, 1600dp -- 74 Triumph TR6 with O.D., sapphire blue
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