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PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 6:43 am    Post subject: Steel Wheels Reply with quote

I need a 6" wide five pattern wheel with a specific rear set back for a spare. Way back when, I used to know where to have them made. Where can I go today? I am west coast (AZ). Thanks
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 4:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Steel Wheels Reply with quote

I changed the offset on mine by cutting the welds that hold the hoop to the center, moved it where I wanted it, and welded them back together. It’s pretty easy to do. I made a simple jig to make sure the run out was good before welding. Just spun the wheel with the center bolted down to the brakes (center is a slight press fit into hoop) next to a fixed point… in my case, just a bolt head. I tapped the hoop around while spinning it until it rubbed evenly on the bolt head all they way around. I did this for both axial and radial runout. Took all of 20 minutes to do both wheels. The result was better runout than what the wheel originally had.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 4:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Steel Wheels Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 8:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Steel Wheels Reply with quote

HOW DID YOU CUT THE CENTERS OUT?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Steel Wheels Reply with quote

anyone????
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:22 pm    Post subject: Re: Steel Wheels Reply with quote

Carefully cut/grind away the weld where the center is attached to the outer hoop.


I made my own jig to cut the hoop so I could insert a steel band (banding) & weld back up.

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Or maybe.... I’ll just widen these. Twisted Evil


Hey y’all, watch this.


The first thing I did was toss a wheel in my homemade banding jig & commence to tearing it up.
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About ten minutes later, I separated the outer lip.
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I then grabbed the appropriate width strip.
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After that, I removed the lower mandrel from my English wheel.
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And substituted my self made roller.
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Then tossed in a strip & started forming it into a band.
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Once it was the desired diameter, I proceeded to tack it to the outer lip.
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After thoroughly welding the band to the outer lip, I cleaned up the weld on the visible side of the hoop & did a trial fit & using a pry bar clamped to the jig, I checked the runout & got the wheel within 1/8”.
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The rest of the discrepancy is due to the lip being slightly bent, I can adjust that later with a BFH & a crescent wrench so I began making them one again. Unfortunately, about 2/3 around, my faithful old Hobart shit the bed & noped out of the task at hand.

But here’s where we’re at.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 1:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Steel Wheels Reply with quote

I've used this guy before, good new wheels.
https://www.smittyssmoothies.net/product-page/15x7x3-75

And this guy is selling in the classifieds for modified ones.
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1172589
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 3:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Steel Wheels Reply with quote

frankydee wrote:
HOW DID YOU CUT THE CENTERS OUT?


There are four welds holding the center section in the rim. Grind the welds out, then pound out the center section. It takes a good bit of force because it is pressed into the rim. Hit around the perimeter, not the middle. You don’t want to bend it. A cold chisel works well to hit the flanges where they meet the rim.

Pretty straight forward to do. Only takes a few minutes per wheel.

When you fit the center section to a new rim, it probably won’t be so tight. I know mine were not. It was still tight enough that I had to hammer it in place. You need to find a rim that has the same inner diameter as the factory wheels to make life easy. Once you get it center up well and your runout set, then you weld up those four spots again where the center was attached to the rim.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 5:28 am    Post subject: Re: Steel Wheels Reply with quote

I wanted 14" x 8" rims for the rear of my rail so I could use ATV tires. I found a couple of late 60's rally rims at the wreckers, took the centers out and welded in Bus wide 5 centers. The only problem was that they were not a matching pair (1 Ford and 1 Dodge) so the hump in the center of the rim band was different and I ended up with a 1/2" difference in offset between the two. Not a big deal on an open wheel low speed trail Buggy.
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