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VW&MGman Samba Member
Joined: January 06, 2008 Posts: 112
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Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2021 3:43 pm Post subject: 44 IDF Choke Size for 2165cc |
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Hi All,
Need your advice here. I have a 2165cc that I use in my road race Beetle. It currently has 36 mm chokes and I was wondering if you I should increase the size to 38s or 40s. Max RPM I run it to is about 6500-6700.
Engine specs:
78 x94
DRD L6 heads 42 X 37.5
9:1 compression
1 5/8 A1 exhaust
SLR R302 cam (529" lift, 302 duration)
Dual 44 IDFs
Thanks for you input |
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67rustavenger Samba Member
Joined: February 24, 2015 Posts: 9760 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2021 4:25 pm Post subject: Re: 44 IDF Choke Size for 2165cc |
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Chokes should be 2mm under the intake valve diameter.
You'll have to rejet and make adjustments after the choke change. _________________ I have learned over the years.
Cheap parts are gonna disappoint you.
Buy Once, Cry Once!
There's never enough time to do it right the first time. But there's always enough time to do it thrice.
GFY's Xevin and VW_Jimbo! |
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Ohio Tom Samba Member
Joined: February 09, 2006 Posts: 1660 Location: Marshallville Ohio
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Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 12:42 pm Post subject: Re: 44 IDF Choke Size for 2165cc |
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38's will be a nice jump in power.
Jet accordingly.
You can run the 40's, but that's for every last bit of power up top.
It will start to hurt the low end going that big. |
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VW&MGman Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 3:24 pm Post subject: Re: 44 IDF Choke Size for 2165cc |
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Thanks for your input.
So I found 38mm chokes on CB's website.
If install new larger chokes, do I have to enlarge the carb paper gaskets as well to accommodate the 38mm chokes?
Any recommendations on jetting sizes for idle, mains and airs? Just asking so I can make one order from them. |
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GMendoza Samba Member
Joined: November 15, 2007 Posts: 341 Location: Alta Loma, CA
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Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 8:11 pm Post subject: Re: 44 IDF Choke Size for 2165cc |
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Paper gaskets do not need to be modified since the diameter of the paper gasket hole and outer diameter of the venturi is the same.
In theory, going to a larger venturi requires a larger main jet, no change to idles or airs BUT you really need to hook up a wideband o2 sensor to see what your a/f ratio is doing then adjust accordingly. |
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modok Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2009 Posts: 26785 Location: Colorado Springs
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Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 10:30 pm Post subject: Re: 44 IDF Choke Size for 2165cc |
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There is normally no venturi gasket.
increase the size of the jet in proportion to the venturi change.
If venturi is 5.5% bigger, then make the main jet 5.5% bigger too, at least, probably the next size UP from whatever that is. |
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