Gearbox swap in a 52

[Notch_Norway]

Hi,

This topic has been covered, but i cant find any threads as of now.

Anyway. I`ve been told i need this adapter to fit a newer gearbox in the split bugs if i don't want to weld a bracket in.

Is this correct or is it just a nosecone swap and I'm good like in the later bugs?

https://wagenswest.com/product/lollipop/

Please dont turn this into a campaign for me to run the OG gearbox

[splitjunkie]

I have never used one but it looks like a pretty workable solution. Urethane motor mounts tend to be crap so that is my main reservation.

Keep in mind that you will still need a bus nose cone and hockey stick to use this mount.

The other option, is to install a late '52-'59 split case synchro transmssion with a '59 and earlier bus nose cone and hockey stick. This will all bolt in with no mods other than having to drill a hole in the top of the hockey stick for the shift lever lock screw. This won't be as robust as a tunnel trans but will give you synchromesh on 2nd through 4th and will be fine if you aren't running a big engine.
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[Notch_Norway]

Thanks

I have bought a T2 nose cone. What is a hockeystick?

[esde]

[Notch_Norway]

Thanks, mate

[Rome]

The name "hockey stick" is slang, because the overall shape resembles that of a sports hockey stick with its downward-bent "paddle" area and the long holding stick (W1K1 gallery). Here you can see small differences with the hockey stick "paddle" end, the dimple location, and the shape &length of the "Z" of the paddle end.

Per esde's explanation, here's a photo from a later Type 2 repair manual showing how the hockey stick fits through the nose cone (AndyBees gallery). Beetles and other VWs have different details but the principle is the same. The front end of the stick (the long end "handle") has the small dimple. This dimple is where you attach the small securing bolt of the shift rod's rear bushing and mounting cage. When you shift gears using your shift lever, the shift rod rotates slightly and moves front/back. This motion is transmitted into the transmission via the hockey stick.

[Lind]

If you are going to use a later split case gearbox with 2nd-4th gears synchronized, then I'm pretty sure you can use your original nose cone and hockey stick. (this is a '53-'60 beetle gearbox)

If you are going to use a fully synchronized tunnel type gearbox, then you have to get creative. There are four different solutions, all of which have some drawbacks. (the "lollipop", a plate that hangs way down, a bolt on piece for the nose cone, and an aftermarket nose cone. they are all discussed in various places in the split bus forums) I didn't like any of them, so I took a different route.

On my '50, I took a '60s era tunnel type nose cone, and had a machinist turn it down on a lathe, and then weld part of a split case nose cone onto it so it fits into the stock mount. Then we used a bolt on mid mount on the transmission to help hold the weight so the nose cone would have an easy life. This solution worked well, and is total bolt-on, with no hacks to the car. The down side is that it is a bunch of work and expense (not that any other solution is particularly cheap and easy). I have driven it over 6500 miles with a 100+ hp engine, and it works just fine.
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