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PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2021 2:28 pm    Post subject: Eurovan conversion to electric - Is it feasible? Reply with quote

I've done some searching on-line but it appears there has been zero attempt by anyone, anywhere in the world to successfully convert a Eurovan into an electric drive vehicle. Has anyone else looked into the feasibility of this at all? I just sank a ton of money into my EVC and worry that this great camper platform will soon be left for dead as parts and service become ever more slim and none. It seems to me that electric conversions will become the only salvation for these beloved vehicles. Your feedback is welcome.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2021 6:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Eurovan conversion to electric - Is it feasible? Reply with quote

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I just sank a ton of money into my EVC and worry that this great camper platform will soon be left for dead as parts and service become ever more slim and none.


How soon?
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Why not just make a custom set of wires with a Y splice in them. Then you could just run one distributor.

I don't think electrickery works that way
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2021 9:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Eurovan conversion to electric - Is it feasible? Reply with quote

https://openinverter.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=1456

T4 being converted with Tesla drivetrain.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 04, 2021 9:37 am    Post subject: Re: Eurovan conversion to electric - Is it feasible? Reply with quote

My old boss use to say, "Given enough time and money, anything is possible". There are some shops that specialize in electric conversion. Kreisel Electric and Arnold Schwarzenegger electrified his H1 Hummer.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 04, 2021 12:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Eurovan conversion to electric - Is it feasible? Reply with quote

I've been wondering the same thing over the years.

But until they sell some mass mark plug-n-play system I think the conversions will remain prohibitively expensive.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/03/world/classic-car-electric-ev-c2e-climate-spc-intl-hnk/index.html

For rare luxury cares the investment may be worth it.

But at $20-30k for the conversion, that's practically the cost of buying another Eurovan.

http://www.makemineelectric.com/faqs.html#13
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 04, 2021 1:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Eurovan conversion to electric - Is it feasible? Reply with quote

With Ford selling a e-crate motor, it is closer to becoming a reality.
https://electrek.co/2021/11/03/ford-is-selling-mac...0-concept/

Also saw the VW e-bus concept in the new today.
https://www.caranddriver.com/volkswagen/id-buzz-microbus
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 4:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Eurovan conversion to electric - Is it feasible? Reply with quote

Since they sold hundreds of thousand of T4's in Europe - and they are still popular over there, I'm hoping to see a T4 conversion kit to emerge over there at some point. The best thing about going electric is that we can remove the Achilles heal of the Eurovan as well - The damn transmission!
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 5:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Eurovan conversion to electric - Is it feasible? Reply with quote

Fear not,

The modern replacement for the EVC in the US is the Tofino: https://pleasureway.com/models/tofino/


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The bottom bed is the size of the MV and it has a great electrical system (Li).

Otherwise, enjoy your EVC. You will be able to get mechanical parts for it for some time. The cosmetic pieces will be "used".
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 5:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Eurovan conversion to electric - Is it feasible? Reply with quote

Didn’t Starsky and Hutch drive a Tofino?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 5:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Eurovan conversion to electric - Is it feasible? Reply with quote

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Didn’t Starsky and Hutch drive a Tofino?


I think it was a Gran Tofino.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2021 6:08 am    Post subject: Re: Eurovan conversion to electric - Is it feasible? Reply with quote

More hope for electric vehicle conversions: https://www.bbc.com/news/business-58578061

Gran Torino... but you knew this. It was in the Clint Eastwood movie Gran Torino too.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2021 6:15 am    Post subject: Re: Eurovan conversion to electric - Is it feasible? Reply with quote

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Gran Torino... but you knew this. It was in the Clint Eastwood movie Gran Torino too.


Clint Eastwood was a van-lifer bad@ss.
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Why not just make a custom set of wires with a Y splice in them. Then you could just run one distributor.

I don't think electrickery works that way
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2021 7:15 am    Post subject: Re: Eurovan conversion to electric - Is it feasible? Reply with quote

Ya, just tagging on with the funnies. I am enjoying the conversation. I feel like the writing is on the wall for the ICE within my lifetime (if I live for a while longer). Heck, I am having trouble finding hoses for the coolant system.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2021 4:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Eurovan conversion to electric - Is it feasible? Reply with quote

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Fear not,

The modern replacement for the EVC in the US is the Tofino: https://pleasureway.com/models/tofino/

Otherwise, enjoy your EVC. You will be able to get mechanical parts for it for some time. The cosmetic pieces will be "used".


Yes to hanging on to our Eurovans as is for now.

That Tofino starts at $85k base model, ouch!

For that much you can also get a brand new electric Rivian truck, which just IPO'd today...
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2021 5:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Eurovan conversion to electric - Is it feasible? Reply with quote

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That Tofino starts at $85k base model, ouch!


What would be the forum's guess on what a modern VW camper replacement would cost in 2021 (NASA shows the EVC cost $38,733 in 2002)?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2021 8:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Eurovan conversion to electric - Is it feasible? Reply with quote

T6 California runs near 100k in EU
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 11, 2021 7:35 am    Post subject: Re: Eurovan conversion to electric - Is it feasible? Reply with quote

That is what I thought. We would be lucky to get a modern EVC for $85K; these small campers are very popular now.

That said, the lack of buyers back in the day is what killed off VW making a decision to bring T5+ back here. I hope the new demand will change VW's corporate mind as they could sell all the California models they would bring here.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 11, 2021 7:47 am    Post subject: Re: Eurovan conversion to electric - Is it feasible? Reply with quote

The Metris-based Camper is available here now in various forms...still - I think you are pushing $70K for the Weekender-type package. Exciting to see though. I saw one in person here where I live just a month or so ago.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 11, 2021 4:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Eurovan conversion to electric - Is it feasible? Reply with quote

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The Metris-based Camper is available here now in various forms...still - I think you are pushing $70K for the Weekender-type package. Exciting to see though. I saw one in person here where I live just a month or so ago.


I forgot about this option! I take it as a sign VW may consider jumping back in the US market. It fell out as an option because the weekender seats only 5; we need at least 7.

As a side note: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sa8kHgmZIiQ&t=954s

A kinder review: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C00aaAx3uzA
At around the 15 minute mark, there is a discussion about the "chicken tax" from 1963 which I found very interesting.

And a Metris camper video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBm9eMx744M


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 11, 2021 6:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Eurovan conversion to electric - Is it feasible? Reply with quote

It’s possible but certainly not economically feasible right now
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