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splitface
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bumper fit test and virgin dove blue inside
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andyvwbug
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| Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 5:22 am Post subject: Re: 1954 typ 23 from Austria |
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| splitface wrote: |
| not having original service manual now can I ask what should be thickness of brake material on brake shoes ? |
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| Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 7:43 pm Post subject: Re: 1954 typ 23 from Austria |
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| Congratulations, what an incredible nice and original bus! |
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bally
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| Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 8:11 pm Post subject: Re: 1954 typ 23 from Austria |
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| andyvwbug wrote: |
| splitface wrote: |
| not having original service manual now can I ask what should be thickness of brake material on brake shoes ? |
Patience is a vertue |
It certainly is - congratulations on your patience paying off - that internal Dove Blue is AMAZING!!!! The outside is pretty amazing too!
Great thread - I look forward to following this 
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bally
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| Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 8:12 pm Post subject: Re: 1954 typ 23 from Austria |
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| mandraks wrote: |
for the non-German or non-Austrian speakers.
Babyhilfe translates to Baby help.
Organisation for the improvement of Baby- and child care.
St Poelten is a City
Kremser Landstrasse is literally the road to Krems, another city in Austria. |
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splitface
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| Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:02 pm Post subject: Re: 1954 typ 23 from Austria |
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I started to clean underside
cargo floors will need replacement .mostly in bad condition
with mouse living there for more then 30 years
but front and , rear end, main chassis , wheel arches etc are very solid for a BD bus generally
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djfordmanjack
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| Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 1:09 pm Post subject: Re: 1954 typ 23 from Austria |
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Very SOLID, you say ????? 
that is MINT ! 
wow....just WOW ! congratulations.
please do not 'restore', repaint or sandblast that undercarriage. it is in incredible original shape and paint and may only need a light cleaning and light wax. I wonder how bad the cargo floors really are.
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splitface
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| Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 1:31 pm Post subject: Re: 1954 typ 23 from Austria |
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| djfordmanjack wrote: |
Very SOLID, you say ?????
that is MINT !
wow....just WOW ! congratulations.
please do not 'restore', repaint or sandblast that undercarriage. it is in incredible original shape and paint and may only need a light cleaning and light wax. I wonder how bad the cargo floors really are. |
do NOT worry, it will NOT be repainted just cleaned and waxed of course |
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EverettB 
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| Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:09 pm Post subject: Re: 1954 typ 23 from Austria |
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| splitface wrote: |
but front and , rear end, main chassis , wheel arches etc are very solid for a BD bus generally
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Wow, that is nice, especially the underneath.
I'm surprised by how much wear the gas pedal has since you said:
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was in trafic only from 1954 to 1966 and is pretty solid from under
was in dry barn for 25 years
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How many miles are on the Bus? I was thinking under 100,000km because of the outside condition and limited usage
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splitface
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| Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:43 am Post subject: Re: 1954 typ 23 from Austria |
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| EverettB wrote: |
| splitface wrote: |
but front and , rear end, main chassis , wheel arches etc are very solid for a BD bus generally
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Wow, that is nice, especially the underneath.
I'm surprised by how much wear the gas pedal has since you said:
| splitface wrote: |
was in trafic only from 1954 to 1966 and is pretty solid from under
was in dry barn for 25 years
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How many miles are on the Bus? I was thinking under 100,000km because of the outside condition and limited usage |
Hello Everett
I was surprised about gas pedal too because it looks like real low milleage car - ir was in traffic only from 54 to 66 ..last technical check stamp in small papers I have with car is from 64
I do not want to learn eagle to fly
but you can see round hole under gas pedal on floor
gas pedal hole was rotten from under ..I removed part of rotten thin metal bent down
my theory is :
somebody removed big metal shielding whole front from road mess
I have ir with car ..it was inside
and water was squirting from road through hole - made for easy access to greasing nipple .I guess it is originally from factory and
moisture slowly eaten gas pedal from under 
wil check ODO later ..I believe it was never turned over zeros |
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| Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 4:20 am Post subject: Re: 1954 typ 23 from Austria |
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splitface, I'm looking forward to hearing about the actual mileage as that peddle hole is odd. Also the work by the PO on that floor is interesting, can we see a pic of that floor section most especially the edge where it fits into the floor? I’m fascinated. Supper happy you will keep her paint patina please post your waxing method/brand when you get to that.
What a stunning Barndoor bus it would be nice to see either of these shots as your icon
Keep up the good work, Linda
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| splitface wrote: |
but front and , rear end, main chassis , wheel arches etc are very solid for a BD bus generally
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Wow, that is nice, especially the underneath.
I'm surprised by how much wear the gas pedal has since you said:
| splitface wrote: |
was in trafic only from 1954 to 1966 and is pretty solid from under
was in dry barn for 25 years
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How many miles are on the Bus? I was thinking under 100,000km because of the outside condition and limited usage |
Hello Everett
I was surprised about gas pedal too because it looks like real low milleage car - ir was in traffic only from 54 to 66 ..last technical check stamp in small papers I have with car is from 64
I do not want to learn eagle to fly
but you can see round hole under gas pedal on floor
gas pedal hole was rotten from under ..I removed part of rotten thin metal bent down
my theory is :
somebody removed big metal shielding whole front from road mess
I have ir with car ..it was inside
and water was squirting from road through hole - made for easy access to greasing nipple .I guess it is originally from factory and
moisture slowly eaten gas pedal from under
wil check ODO later ..I believe it was never turned over zeros |
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| Have you considered simply starting with a nicer bus? I don't know what your skills are, but the race is easier if you can see the finish line. If you are not a runner, don't start off doing a marathon. |
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djfordmanjack
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| Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 10:09 am Post subject: Re: 1954 typ 23 from Austria |
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I have had 3x 1954 and 1 1953 now, and all of them had the same wear on the gas pedal. I would think it is because of the awkward position the spoon pedal is, nearly perpendicular to the floor and parallel to the vehicle axes, while the driver's foot needs to be shifted to the right to reach it. Check out how they changed the position of the gas pedal on post 55 buses, and it's clear to see how the original BD spoon pedal would be worn off to one side by the drivers shoe. it's also stamped from thin sheetmetal. maybe the Kindergartenfreunde had nailed marching boots....
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splitface
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| Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 11:42 am Post subject: Re: 1954 typ 23 from Austria |
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| djfordmanjack wrote: |
I have had 3x 1954 and 1 1953 now, and all of them had the same wear on the gas pedal. I would think it is because of the awkward position the spoon pedal is, nearly perpendicular to the floor and parallel to the vehicle axes, while the driver's foot needs to be shifted to the right to reach it. Check out how they changed the position of the gas pedal on post 55 buses, and it's clear to see how the original BD spoon pedal would be worn off to one side by the drivers shoe. it's also stamped from thin sheetm
tal. maybe the Kindergartenfreunde had nailed marching boots.... |
I would agee but as mentioned half of hole was metal rotten from underside
Still bent down ..that is why i thought it could be because of hole for greasing nipple access and mosture from road, it can be even.combination of both factors |
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splitface
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| Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 12:54 am Post subject: Re: 1954 typ 23 from Austria |
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| Anybody knows correct measurements - lenght of all brake tubes for 54 bd ? Was not able to measure all of them when removed , for example front - main brake drum cylinder to passenger side , same to rear divider ,etc in centimeters it would be appreciated ,thx |
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splitface
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| Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2021 7:50 am Post subject: Re: 1954 typ 23 from Austria |
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bus has remains of pinstriping all around and I was told that
it was made in factory only on some cars with blue stripe in white front emblem
is it correct ? any know how about factory pinstriping ?
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| Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2021 8:25 am Post subject: Re: 1954 typ 23 from Austria |
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bus has remains of pinstriping all around and I was told that
it was made in factory only on some cars with blue stripe in white front emblem
is it correct ? any know how about factory pinstriping ? |
It was on all dove blue kombis through the 1958 model year.
Standard microbuses got two stripes.
deluxes got aluminum trim.
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| Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2021 1:46 am Post subject: Re: 1954 typ 23 from Austria |
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would like to know more details about pinstriping
years, stripes , which models etc ..if anyone knows more do not by shy please |
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| Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2021 7:51 am Post subject: Re: 1954 typ 23 from Austria |
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| splitface wrote: |
would like to know more details about pinstriping
years, stripes , which models etc ..if anyone knows more do not by shy please |
Dove blue kombis all got pinstripes until the end of the 1958 model year. They got one pinstripe. It was silverwhite like the rims and the white on the bumper. You can see where it was by looking on your kombi.
Standard microbuses all got pinstripes until the end of the 1958 model year. They got two pinstripes. The upper bus color below the beltline color split and the lower bus color above the beltine color split.
No other model or year or color got pinstripes from the VW factory.
The pinstripes were hand painted.
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