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PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2021 8:59 pm    Post subject: Little Blue Truck gets a new engine - FAS 2.0 engine conversion Reply with quote

As a previous thread mentioned a few weeks ago, I’ve ordered a FAS GenV 2.0 L NA (Naturally Aspirated) for my auto 2WD westy. I want to document the engine swap. Hopefully it'll help someone in the future, and I'm also betting on your hawk eyes ("Hey, Vicvan, I see in the blurry background of that photo that the gas tank is mounted upside down") and your experience ("Hey Vicvan, maybe you should also put in a new fuel filter").
Here's what my engine bay should look like in a few weeks, as per FAS website:
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Source: http://www.foreignautosupply.com/engine-and-drive-...n-program/


I’ll be removing the stock, original, 2.1 Wasserboxer with 275 000 km (172 000 mi) on it (It’s for sale, PM if you want more info; it comes with a 3-year-old GW stainless steel exhaust). Since the engine kit is a few weeks late (Covid, supply, logistics, bla bla), I’ll kill time by starting this thread. Let’s look at the diagnostics that I’ve completed so far.

The FAS manual (v 2.3) offers detailed instructions, although not as detailed as the uber-comprehensive Bostig installation notes. The manual instructs me to test (and fix) the following systems prior to the engine swap:
- Fuel system: check for proper flow and pressure. Inspect fuel tank, fuel pump and fuel lines.
- Cooling and heater system: Visual inspections. Pressure tests as per Bentley.
- Battery, battery cable, starter, grounds: test and inspect.
- Dash cooling system gauges and oil pressure dynamic system: test.
- Air intake: Inspect air intake in D pillar (Note that the FAS Gen V kit uses the stock air intake nd air box)

Let's start with the fuel pressure test!

What does the Bible say?
Book of Robert (Bentley) chapter 24, verse 55:
Run engine at idle, measure fuel pressure.
Vacuum hose on pressure regulator connected: approx. 29 psi
-------------------------------------- disconnected: approx. 36 psi
Residual pressure: shut off engine and wait 10 minutes: approx. 29 to 36 psi


I borrowed a fuel pressure tester kit at Canadian Tire. I connected it at the fuel return tee (do not loose that tiny screw and tinier washer!). Let's see what we have:

Connected hose: 32 psi, OK
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Disconnected hose, 38 psi, OK
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Residual pressure after 10 minutes: 36 psi, OK

Fuel pressure test: passed!
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 4:56 am    Post subject: Re: Little Blue Truck gets a new engine - FAS 2.0 engine conversion Reply with quote

Neato. I'm looking forward to watching the swap.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 7:26 am    Post subject: Re: Little Blue Truck gets a new engine - FAS 2.0 engine conversion Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 10:09 am    Post subject: Re: Little Blue Truck gets a new engine - FAS 2.0 engine conversion Reply with quote

Cooling system pressure test, cooling system check:

RB (Robert Bentley) 19.17: buy an expensive VW tool and pressurize to 14.5 psi, pressure should remain constant


JB (Me): rig something with what you have on hand, and check that pressure.

The initial idea (taken from GW's website or here, can't remember):

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Good, simple, but no gauge.

I'll just use that fuel pressure gauge I just used:

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Inflate to 15 psi:

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Inspect: Found one small drop of coolant on the main coolant hose to radiator hose. Tightened the clamp, cleaned. No other leaks found.

Check pressure after 15 minutes: 14 psi

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I think I know where that 1 missing psi went. One, gauge accuracy and leaks in the measuring instrument; two, in one of the cylinder heads. Started the engine, and big puffs of white smoke (smelled good!).

Radiator was replaced last November with a Behr unit, many new coolant hoses since I bought the van, rear heater and auto tranny cooler have been eliminated. Fan cycles on and off, operating temperatures checked with an InfraRed thermometer gun. Temperature gauge on dash operates flawlessly. Coolant warning LED blinks at startup as per Bentley.

Cooling system: Passed!
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 10:17 am    Post subject: Re: Little Blue Truck gets a new engine - FAS 2.0 engine conversion Reply with quote

I almost forgot: this very interesting feature is not covered in the Bentley:


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 10:55 am    Post subject: Re: Little Blue Truck gets a new engine - FAS 2.0 engine conversion Reply with quote

Fun thread!

Have you already replaced your plastic "front to back" cooling pipes? There's no way I'd put in such a nice piece of kit as the FAS motor without doing so; mine did not leak when I replaced them but were just as bad as you can imagine, amazed they had not failed already.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 11:21 am    Post subject: Re: Little Blue Truck gets a new engine - FAS 2.0 engine conversion Reply with quote

Congrats! I hope the shipping process goes well.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 12:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Little Blue Truck gets a new engine - FAS 2.0 engine conversion Reply with quote

mikemtnbike wrote:
Fun thread!

Have you already replaced your plastic "front to back" cooling pipes?


They were replaced a few years ago by the PO. With... plastic pipes. Laughing
So I'll keep them for now since they're in good shape, but I will switch to stainless in a couple of years.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 5:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Little Blue Truck gets a new engine - FAS 2.0 engine conversion Reply with quote

Hey Vic,
Good choice to go with FAS. I installed one of their diesel kits a few years ago. Not sure what kind of resources you have or if you're thinking how you're going to do get the motor up in there but if you want, take a look through my thread just to see an install option. I didn't get any pictures of the cherry picker I used to get it up in place though. Once I started to lift it, every pump I was all over the place checking everything was clearing and sort of forgot the camera. Probably should have found a helper.
I believe FAS lowers the van down on top of the engine which is ideal. Once I started lifting the motor and gravity took over, it got challenging to keep the motor at the 50 degrees. If you had any questions feel free to send a PM.
Did you invest in one of their transmission mounts? Pretty BOMBER!
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 6:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Little Blue Truck gets a new engine - FAS 2.0 engine conversion Reply with quote

OT but is your avatar Miss Agnes?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 9:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Little Blue Truck gets a new engine - FAS 2.0 engine conversion Reply with quote

GreggK wrote:
Hey Vic,
Good choice to go with FAS. I installed one of their diesel kits a few years ago. Not sure what kind of resources you have or if you're thinking how you're going to do get the motor up in there but if you want, take a look through my thread just to see an install option. I didn't get any pictures of the cherry picker I used to get it up in place though. Once I started to lift it, every pump I was all over the place checking everything was clearing and sort of forgot the camera. Probably should have found a helper.
I believe FAS lowers the van down on top of the engine which is ideal. Once I started lifting the motor and gravity took over, it got challenging to keep the motor at the 50 degrees. If you had any questions feel free to send a PM.
Did you invest in one of their transmission mounts? Pretty BOMBER!


Your thread was a great read, thanks! Impressive work. Thanks for the tips on the engine install. I think I'll slide the engine below the van and lift it, which I believe is what you did. Another thread has detailed this process. I'll have to think aobut the 50 degree aspect for sure. Maybe use a jack mounted on a box or something.
A couple of questions:
1 How did you get the pallet out of the UHaul trailer? I still have to figure out how to do that. Right now I'm thinking Ancient Egypt style, sheet of plywood to create a ramp and broomsticks to move it around...
2 What about the transmission mount? I have an automatic, so I don't know if it applies...
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 9:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Little Blue Truck gets a new engine - FAS 2.0 engine conversion Reply with quote

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OT but is your avatar Miss Agnes?

I don't know who that is... My Avatar is Little Blue Truck, from a children's book that I've read about a thousand times to my son at the time.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 9:07 am    Post subject: Re: Little Blue Truck gets a new engine - FAS 2.0 engine conversion Reply with quote

What would happen if you drilled a hole for the valve stem in the coolant bottle ?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 9:18 am    Post subject: Re: Little Blue Truck gets a new engine - FAS 2.0 engine conversion Reply with quote

VicVan wrote:
photogdave wrote:
OT but is your avatar Miss Agnes?

I don't know who that is... My Avatar is Little Blue Truck, from a children's book that I've read about a thousand times to my son at the time.


Travis McGee's Rolls Royce pickup from the popular novel series.

Anyway, good luck on the conversion. I drove a Peace Vans rental with a FAS and it was really nice. Should be fantastic on the Malahat!
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 3:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Little Blue Truck gets a new engine - FAS 2.0 engine conversion Reply with quote

Hey Vic,
I was able to wiggle the pallet out of the trailer far enough that I could ease it down to the ground and then I think I just kept wiggling it and the other end just slid out gently. I got lucky with that but it, was not too heavy. Then I wiggled it into my garage. Eventually I cut the pallet down so it would fit between the legs on my engine hoist. I would lift it up a little then be able to wheel it round so I could move it. I think there was a picture showing that.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 6:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Little Blue Truck gets a new engine - FAS 2.0 engine conversion Reply with quote

Still waiting for the engine to ship. FAS's last update put the shipping this week. Fingers crossed. In the meantime, let's continue with the pre-swap diagnostics.

An easy and fun one: Fuel delivery test. Bentley 20.29: fuel volume delivered at the engine should be at least 500 mL for 30 seconds.
Remove the fuel supply line (or return line? I forgot which is which... anyway, the one at the metal T).
Note that in the background I removed the fuse to the fuel pump, and used a jumper wire to run the pump for 30 seconds.

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Make sure you use a high-tech, graduated, expensive measuring device, and after 30 seconds, voila:

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Approx. 770 mL. We're good!
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:52 pm    Post subject: Oil pressure warning light repair Reply with quote

Another problem I had to solve was fixing the stock oil pressure warning light in the cluster, that stopped working a year ago... I didn't bother too much because I have an oil pressure gauge, but I have to make it right this time.
Symptom: it did not blink when key on ignition. It lit for half a second, so I knew the LED worked. After checking the oil pressure sensor in the engine as pder Bently, I went for the Oil Pressure Warning System Printed Circuit Board (also known as the OPWSPCB Confused ). Who doesn't like to take the cluster apart anyway?

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Remove tachometer, and find the circuit board

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Looks like I found the culprit, from the looks of it:

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Found a used one out of a Golf on EBay Sweden (!), 2 weeks later it was in my mailbox


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Plugged it in and... it worked! LED blinked a few times on ignition. Awesome! Started the engine.
I tried again, just to make sure. Aaaaand.. didn't work. LED wouldn't blink
Shocked

So I checked all the wires (again) in the engine compartment, and they did look old. I started checking continuity on all wires between the sensors and the cluster. I found that the wire between the low pressure sensor and the plastic connector (left side of the engine) had no continuity. I made another one, and this time, it worked for good.

Oil Pressure warning system: check.

I'll have to install the oil pressure gauge sender on the new engine. Anybody knows if there's a stock sender or port one I can reuse?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 3:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Little Blue Truck gets a new engine - FAS 2.0 engine conversion Reply with quote

Last thing on the FAS manual is checking the air intake. The FAS kit uses the stock air box.
So I took the snorkel apart, inspected and cleaned it. I straightened the tube back into shape. Looked good. I just replaced some tape and it was good to go.
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Air intake: check

Next episode: the "while I'm in there" list...
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 3:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Little Blue Truck gets a new engine - FAS 2.0 engine conversion Reply with quote

You're gonna LOVE that engine! Cool
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 28, 2021 12:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Little Blue Truck gets a new engine - FAS 2.0 engine conversion Reply with quote

Here’s a list of “while I’m in there” things I plan to do. Let me know if I missed anything:

Body:
- Replace firewall insulation
- Address surface rust in engine bay and on firewall (wirewheel, rust primer, paint)

Hoses and fluids:
- Inspect and tighten all hoses and connections (coolant, fuel)
- Change fuel filters
- Clean fuel pump inlet

Automatic transmission:
- Inspect governor seal and cap
- Change torque converter seals (I’ve had a small leak there for a while)
- Check condition of grease in inner CV joints (I cleaned and repacked them 19 000 km ago)

Electrical
- Add starter ground cable (I have a TDI starter installed already),
- Add hard start relay.

What else?

(still waiting on the engine. Maybe next week is the day it ships? Popcorn )
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