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pacifcoflyr
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 Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 5:39 pm Post subject: Wheels & Lug Holes |
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I have read threads on power coated wheels and how the lug area needs to be free from coating. Unfortunately on my newly purchased bus, they didn't do this. It appears these wheels weren't in any great shape went they went off to the powder coater. Today I took my front left wheel off and one of the lugs was pretty loose, and when I got the wheel off I noticed a few of the holes weren't very round. At what point are you guys replacing the wheels with this issue? Who is making the best factory style replacement wheels?
This is the spare
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BarryL 
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| Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 7:06 pm Post subject: Re: Wheels & Lug Holes |
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The roundness at the actual hole doesn't matter.
The lug bolt has a taper that self centers as you tighten it into a mating taper on the rim. Tighten in a star pattern doing a few star patterns to get to the final tight. |
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pacifcoflyr
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| Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 8:32 pm Post subject: Re: Wheels & Lug Holes |
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| BarryL wrote: |
The roundness at the actual hole doesn't matter.
The lug bolt has a taper that self centers as you tighten it into a mating taper on the rim. Tighten in a star pattern doing a few star patterns to get to the final tight. |
Hi Barry, thanks for your reply. If the hole is a bit oblong that doesn't matter? I am just worried about the integrity of the lug sitting in the wheel. |
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busdaddy
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| Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 9:14 pm Post subject: Re: Wheels & Lug Holes |
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Torque them to spec and drive 10ish miles, then see if they need more torque, if they do and you have to repeat a couple times there's a problem, if they are still just as tight don't worry.
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BarryL
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| Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2021 6:34 pm Post subject: Re: Wheels & Lug Holes |
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| pacifcoflyr wrote: |
| If the hole is a bit oblong that doesn't matter? |
To a certain degree it doesn't matter. Only thing I would add is while you have a wheel up in the air and you've done a cross-star snugging, go ahead and spin the wheel. If it has a funky lope to it then something is wonky.
The drum has the properly spaced threaded holes so theoretically the 5 holes should even out. |
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74 Thing
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| Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2021 7:00 pm Post subject: Re: Wheels & Lug Holes |
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What lug bolts or nuts are you using with those stock wheels?
The lug bolt or nut taper must match that of the wheel.
For powdercoated wheels torque to spec in a star pattern then drive for a few miles and then retorque everything. Should be around 90 ft lbs for steel wheels. |
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BarryL
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| Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2021 6:34 pm Post subject: Re: Wheels & Lug Holes |
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| In your first picture the whole opening looks crushed down. See how the second picture has a volcano like shape? Is the first photo actually like the second one in shape? It's hard to tell. |
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hitest
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| Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2021 11:00 am Post subject: Re: Wheels & Lug Holes |
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74 Thing eluded to it. It may at one time have been fitted with non-VW lug bolts, or at least in a gorilla-like manner. But the drums will "determine" the straightness of the wheel's lug face and bolt centering.
That said, I'd do a true-ness test- a couple wheels mind end up being junk.
Stock VW rims are easy to come by- and I'd rather gather those in HI than pay for an aftermarket steel wheel (unless you go non-VW custom). There may only be a couple sources for 14" bus rims made to look factory- and I'd expect them to be atrociously expensive delivered.
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pacifcoflyr
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| Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 12:55 pm Post subject: Re: Wheels & Lug Holes |
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Thanks all. Sorry I have been away from the computer for a few days.
Here are a few more shots of the same wheel that had a loose lug. The 'volcano' part is still there, it just looks a bit funky in the picture since the powder coat has chipped away.
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74 Thing
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| Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 1:25 pm Post subject: Re: Wheels & Lug Holes |
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| Can you post a photo of the lug bolts or nuts you are using? |
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pacifcoflyr
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| Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 2:42 pm Post subject: Re: Wheels & Lug Holes |
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| 74 Thing wrote: |
| Can you post a photo of the lug bolts or nuts you are using? |
Sorry, I meant to add those pics as well. The threads are toast on some of these and won't be used again. I am also doing the front disc conversion which has the new lug nuts pictured.
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