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jlrftype7 Samba Member
Joined: July 24, 2018 Posts: 3576 Location: Chicago
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Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 10:28 am Post subject: Re: Wasn't there a traveling Vanagon Mechanic... years ago? |
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Ahwahnee wrote: |
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...to fix little odds and ends, and electrical (turn signal stuff--thank God the real electrical stuff is now fixed)... |
There's an old saying: Mechanical problems take minutes to diagnose and hours to fix... electrical problems take hours to diagnose and minutes to fix.
At my age I happily pay to have some mechanical work done (e.g. transaxle R&R) but I don't pay someone to chase down electric faults. Usually time, patience and a methodical approach with a VOM are all that are needed but to hire it out could be rather expensive. |
I like this say, hadn't heard it before.... _________________ '68 Westy- my first VW and vehicle/Bus- long gone.- sold it to a traveling Swiss couple....
'67 Type 3 Fastback, my 2nd car- gone
'69 Semi-Auto Stick Shift Beetle-gone
2017 MINI Coopers, our current DDs
‘84 Tin Top - Hilga....Auto |
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Abscate Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2014 Posts: 22639 Location: NYC/Upstate/ROW
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Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 10:59 am Post subject: Re: Wasn't there a traveling Vanagon Mechanic... years ago? |
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There's an old saying: Mechanical problems take minutes to diagnose and hours to fix... electrical problems take hours to diagnose and minutes to fix. |
Thats the matra of a mechanic who has refused to keep educating her/himself on technology as it evolves.
People do focus on the 'bizarre' electronic failures, but 99% of them are straightforward...and often mechanical connector failures. _________________ .ssS! |
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jjb182 Samba Member
Joined: November 25, 2020 Posts: 10 Location: Gainesville Florida
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Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 9:34 am Post subject: Re: Wasn't there a traveling Vanagon Mechanic... years ago? |
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Hi again!
Vanis13, I'm a little (lot) jealous of your signature line (83.5 Westy with Subaru 2.5, 4 spd manual, center seat, COLD A/C on 134a!, Winter camp heated with an Espar B4 gasoline furnace)
So HillTop Motors here in Jax charges $95 an hour so I'm planning to take it there for the gas smell/leak... and I'm realizing that $95/hour is reasonable/good. I guess I haven't taken in a car/bus/van to be serviced in a LONG time.
Depending on how much time he quotes me to do the pop top... I will likely just do that myself... or maybe connect with Vanis13.
Anyhow, it's nice to have a Group! Thanks for all of the support!
Also... a Black Friday sale on a solar system had me buy an EcoFlow Delta Max 1600, with way too many solar panels--I'm embarrassed to say...and they won't all fit on the van! But it seemed like a deal. It was a tough call between this and the Jackery.
Thanks All for the support! |
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djkeev Samba Moderator
Joined: September 30, 2007 Posts: 32584 Location: Reading Pennsylvania
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Ahwahnee Samba Member
Joined: June 05, 2010 Posts: 9798 Location: Mt Lemmon, AZ
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Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 2:47 pm Post subject: Re: Wasn't there a traveling Vanagon Mechanic... years ago? |
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If you do decide to install the tent yourself, I think my 84 will be identical to what you will be working with.
I saved a few pictures and came up with a couple of tricks.
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zimflux Samba Member
Joined: September 30, 2015 Posts: 192
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Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 2:53 pm Post subject: Re: Wasn't there a traveling Vanagon Mechanic... years ago? |
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Ahwahnee wrote: |
If you do decide to install the tent yourself, I think my 84 will be identical to what you will be working with.
I saved a few pictures and came up with a couple of tricks.
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Please share. Thank you _________________ 84 1.9 Westy |
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elizer Samba Member
Joined: May 02, 2016 Posts: 1461 Location: Northern Virginia
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Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 3:28 pm Post subject: Re: Wasn't there a traveling Vanagon Mechanic... years ago? |
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Just get it running over the winter and in spring go to Quebec and get it installed by a professional. Cheaper than any installer in the states only costs time and gas lol. When I went there were close to a bazillion geese migrating south it was deafening.
There was this youtube video posted here of the gentleman at a vanagon event installing a tent incredibly fast. He was carrying on a conversation the whole time. I watched a lot of videos and read a bunch of threads. It definitelylooks doable, but my van was up in Maine at the time so it made sense at the time. Plus I got one of his awesome tents!
http://www.atelierspk.com/west_english.html
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Irishcalifornian Samba Member
Joined: September 08, 2016 Posts: 167 Location: CaliWestyfornia
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Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 3:49 pm Post subject: Re: Wasn't there a traveling Vanagon Mechanic... years ago? |
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Does anyone recall the man who installs Vanagon windows at the Busses By The Bridge or the Syncrofest events?
I will be at both events and hope to use his services if I connect with him. _________________ One Life, Live It |
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Ahwahnee Samba Member
Joined: June 05, 2010 Posts: 9798 Location: Mt Lemmon, AZ
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Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 4:48 pm Post subject: Re: Wasn't there a traveling Vanagon Mechanic... years ago? |
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zimflux wrote: |
...Please share. Thank you |
Tent replacement is discussed many places including YouTube vids, so I'll just highlight some things I came up with.
I installed my Bud Depot tent with the fiberglass top in place.
These tools from Harbor Freight were very useful, especially in the aft area:
My 84 had the aluminum strips held with screws but also these little wood blocks pushed into the channels or grooves that the tent was stapled to:
Perhaps the blocks were just to make assembly easier. They were not really salvageable so I made some (longer) replacements out of strips of plywood:
Had to sand the plywood a bit to make it a snug fit in the groove:
Those blocks made stapling the new tent in place a cinch.
To make the new tent more manageable I used strips of paper to bundle it, then ripped them off as I got to each section:
I undid the two supports one at a time to 'sneak' the new canvas past them:
Once stapled in place an awl was used to locate the screw holes for the aluminum strips and to punch through the canvas:
Everything else was just the routine steps for an install.
I wouldn't want to do this on a hot day or in the rain (working outside) but it can be a pleasant and satisfying task if tackled in an unhurried fashion.
As Dave notes, an owner-installed tent is likely done with more care than many professional jobs. It may take us longer but we're going to live with the result and will make it the best it can be. |
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bobhill8 Samba Member
Joined: June 09, 2017 Posts: 736 Location: MA
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Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 6:31 pm Post subject: Re: Wasn't there a traveling Vanagon Mechanic... years ago? |
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Thanks Ahwahnee - It's posts like yours that make thesamba so unbelievably helpful. I will probably only replace a tent canvas once in my life, but it will be easier because of those tips/tricks. _________________ 1986 Westy
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jjb182 Samba Member
Joined: November 25, 2020 Posts: 10 Location: Gainesville Florida
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Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 7:14 pm Post subject: Re: Wasn't there a traveling Vanagon Mechanic... years ago? |
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Ahwahnee! Your van looks a lot like mine! And fabulous job on the instructions. |
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vanis13 Samba Member
Joined: August 15, 2010 Posts: 3092 Location: ABQ NM USA.... Except when not
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Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:16 pm Post subject: Re: Wasn't there a traveling Vanagon Mechanic... years ago? |
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Error post _________________ 83.5 Westy with Subaru 2.5, 4 spd manual, center seat, COLD A/C on 134a!, Winter camp heated with an Espar B4 gasoline furnace
www.SuperVanagon.com - some stuff I make
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leecat Samba Member
Joined: September 13, 2012 Posts: 773 Location: Regina
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Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2021 1:14 am Post subject: Re: Wasn't there a traveling Vanagon Mechanic... years ago? |
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Having seen the hack jobs that some so-called 'professionals' (not all, to be sure) do on pop-top installations, I too would really recommend doing it yourself. And I guarantee that if you aren't happy after someone else installs it, it's going to be a world of hurt trying to make them live up to any so-called guarantee they offered - there will be every excuse in the world.
You just can't buy the kind of love you can put into your own van. AND - worst case - even if you have to take it off and start again from scratch at least you're not out a grand.
Took me roughly a full day to do mine, first time I'd done a Vanagon and that included a lot of fiddling around because I wasn't 100% sure about the process - had to keep running back to the Samba and checking details and taking breaks to just sit and look at it to think it through.
Turned out superb though. I found careful attention to alignment when starting was really key. Should have thought ahead and bought new staple strips though, I think I got tetanus from being repeatedly stabbed while pulling 40,000 rusty staples out of the old stuff to re-use it.
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bobbyblack Samba Member
Joined: May 21, 2015 Posts: 4348 Location: United States, Iowa
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Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2021 2:30 pm Post subject: Re: Wasn't there a traveling Vanagon Mechanic... years ago? |
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I did my '87 tent myself a few years ago. After getting it done, I swore that if someone were to ask me to install one for them, I'd tell them "no less than $1000 for me to do it for you" .. I agree taking time and making sure things are well researched, and thought through was the only way I got through it myself.
Now, I am also not looking forward to, but in need of doing my recently new to me '86 Westy. Oh the Joy! I asked Mrs. Black if she'd like the same color tent as came on the bus (Tan tent Pastel White bus [ugh, brown interior]) or to go with a different color, showing her an ample set of colors which I thought red was nice... Nope, Gray! Fine by me, BD version of tent has been great for us so far!
-bobby _________________ '87 Westy 'Flossie','86 Westy 'R1','86 tintop GL - Subi2.2 'J2','83.5 stock tintop L 'ZoomBus','74 Karmann Ghia, '63 Notch |
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