New interior panel installation

[malcolm2]

I have brand new "door cards" for every where.

I have been working for 2 days to figure out how they actually install.

The clips of course slide into the holes on the back of the panel. Those large holes seem to purposely NOT line up with the small holes in the door.

That is because when the clips are inserted into the panel, they have to be offset from the large panel hole..... BUT WHICH WAY??

And the black plastic sleeves don't fit into the holes in the door.

And the part of the clip that goes into the door is WAY TOO WIDE. I had to mash the clip closed.
If not the clip will not go into the plastic sleeve.

Am I dealing with normal stuff here?

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[busdaddy]

The OG cards had the direction the clips pointed to printed on the backs, I guess you'll have to make a paper pattern of the panel holes and overlay it on the door, then mark the holes in the door on the pattern and transfer it back onto the back of the new panel.

As for the clips you'll have to get creative, sadly we have to bend over and use what we got https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=9760722#9760722 , although having looked at CIP's selection a few weeks ago the ones they say fit Beetles may be closer to the bus ones.
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[EZ Gruv]

The new clips are the WORST! Reuse any old clips you have that are in good shape.
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[busdaddy]

[EZ Gruv]

[germansupplyscott]

Make sure you are using Bus door panel clips and rubber boots. The Beetle ones looks the same but are quite a bit wider.
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[malcolm2]

[The Volkswagen Ranch]

If you have the beetle clips and rubber grommets , no way are they going to work, as they are too big. Where did you get them? WW and WCM have the correct clips for a bus, and I have purchased from them in the past. If the door cards are TMI , I’ve installed lots of them over the years, and never had an issue with the holes being “ off” . The idea of the large hole punched in the panel is to so you can “rotate” the clip to the right position to push into the plug. I install all of the rubber grommets first (AFTER installing the plastic moisture barrier) then install the metal clips on the panel and “ pre” line them up with the grommets, and then push the panel on one clip at a time so I can “ fine tune” the clip positions. It takes a while , but has always come out right for me doing this way. Google “ how to install door panels in VW bus” and you will find lots of videos of how to do this. Bob
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[andrewtf]

Malcolm,

I have a Tupperware full of old clips.
If you want some, PM me.

Andrew
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[malcolm2]

you might be right.... purchased from JBugs

I believe the clips can be adjusted for for smaller holes. I really don't see a difference the ones I bought and ones with a proper part# on another site.

But the seals I bought just will not go. It seems that I bought the wrong everything.
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[The Volkswagen Ranch]

Nope. Can’t “adjust” them . The PO of my bus got the plugs and clips from J Bugs, and I have had to replace all of them. Get the right ones. OEM would be best.
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[malcolm2]

[The Volkswagen Ranch]

I found that if I did “squeeze them” smaller, they would not be reusable. Maybe what you have is different . I had to replace all of them in both doors. Most of them that I removed did hold the panels , but without the rubber grommets. The correct ones fit nicely, and panels are tight, but easily removed for access to internals in the doors.
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[busdaddy]

Only the cab doors use (or need) the condoms, the rest just go straight into the metal, no water runs down the inside of any of the cargo area panels.
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[malcolm2]

[malcolm2]

Jersey looker Early bay has 42 condoms and 42 clips. shows the condom on the non-sliding door side.
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[busdaddy]

Interesting, there's no need for them, maybe it's another of those 68 only things?
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[malcolm2]

[malcolm2]

I used the paper template idea and it seemed to work pretty well. But it was taking a very long time to tape the paper to the walls. So I up the paper on the back of the panel while on saw horses. Then taped that template to the wall.

anyway, so damn clips ripped out of the holes, so i had to touch up with some strong double stick tape strips. the corner hole location seems to be the most fragile.

Time-wise it took about 8 hours to do adjust all the clips, mark and install these 4 panels and clean up the armrests and bolt them in.

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[malcolm2]

Moving on to the bulk-heads and the storage area....

The card kit did not come with the cards for the storage area. I can't seem to find them for sale in the US.

So I am making cardboard templates.

I have a 4'x4' corrugated plastic slip sheet that I will cut to fit.

Any other ideas on what do do here?
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