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another graph with CO2 going back further in time
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Bonesberg55
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I'm really impressed by all of these graphs & colored pictures.
NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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The extra greenhouse gases cause extra heating
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Thats the theory, however it is wrong and no real world observation has confirmed it yet. The real world data says it is wrong.
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I'd like to see actual owners/operators chime in on their experiences. I've talked to a few people that drive them and they are all happy. I met a retired rich guy at a hot springs with a Tesla model S. He put 78K on it driving all over the Western US and only replaced tires. he had some sort of extended range battery. The Chinese are buying E-vehicles in mass and they are the number 1 market. Maybe they aren't totally bad...at least from a consumer point of view.
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Mickey bitsko
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Steve, please explain, why ,at this point, polluting the the earth's waterways mining precious metals then being beholden to our political enemies, cluttering miles of landscape with ugly fuqing wind turbines and solar panels and pumping more dinosaur sludge to build ev's is better for the environment?
Haven't we, most of the earth's human population, cluttered and choked waterways and oceans with petroleum based garbage? Do a little research on microplastic particles being found in every ocean on the planet.
Don't you think it would be a good idea to clean up the big heap of shit we've already made before we create another? All the bobbleheads and scientists cannot predict how bad this next disaster will be, and I doubt they care as long as they get the big bucks.
The crap we hear now is bought and paid for by .gov/lobbyist. You cannot deny it.
Why is it humans like crap where they eat 😕
This is why I believe we are not ready for for ev's, one last thing, is electric the best we can come up with.. that's not thinking very far out of the box imo. |
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Bonesberg55
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| Onceler wrote: |
another graph with CO2 going back further in time
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Looks like a polygraph with one big lie at the end and revised labeling |
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steve244
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Steve, please explain, why ,at this point, polluting the the earth's waterways mining precious metals then being beholden to our political enemies, cluttering miles of landscape with ugly fuqing wind turbines and solar panels and pumping more dinosaur sludge to build ev's is better for the environment?
Haven't we, most of the earth's human population, cluttered and choked waterways and oceans with petroleum based garbage? Do a little research on microplastic particles being found in every ocean on the planet.
Don't you think it would be a good idea to clean up the big heap of shit we've already made before we create another? All the bobbleheads and scientists cannot predict how bad this next disaster will be, and I doubt they care as long as they get the big bucks.
The crap we hear now is bought and paid for by .gov/lobbyist. You cannot deny it.
Why is it humans like crap where they eat 😕
This is why I believe we are not ready for for ev's, one last thing, is electric the best we can come up with.. that's not thinking very far out of the box imo. |
Because it's good for business, and gives consumers what they want.
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| I'd like to see actual owners/operators chime in on their experiences. I've talked to a few people that drive them and they are all happy. I met a retired rich guy at a hot springs with a Tesla model S. He put 78K on it driving all over the Western US and only replaced tires. he had some sort of extended range battery. The Chinese are buying E-vehicles in mass and they are the number 1 market. Maybe they aren't totally bad...at least from a consumer point of view. |
check my sig. read my posts in this thread.
We now return you to hating on EVs...
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Onceler
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Sales around the world
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The only way to lower the CO2 emissions is to reduce the amount of humans living on planet Earth. We need to cut the human population in 1/2.
Climate change is a hoax to extort money out of stupid people. The best science we have today can only predict weather 48-72 Hrs. in advance. ANYBODY that tells you what the weather will be in 10 years is just sticking their finger up your ass. We only have accurate weather data from the last 130 years. Anything before that is just a guess.
EV's are not the answer to a problem that doesn't exist.
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global heating corresponds to increased greenouse gasses
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"The best science we have today can only predict weather 48-72 Hrs. in advance".
I have not come across that "best science" watching either the local newscast or The Weather Channel. They can't get tomorrow right! Those graphs are absolutely ridiculous. They do look impressive though, don't they? |
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and predicted temperature change in the future
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| An illustration based on CMIP6 data available in the CDS showing global mean temperature between 1850 and 2100 for selected CMIP6 models. The grey shaded area shows the range of historical simulations and the coloured areas show potential future temperature change based on different greenhouse gas emission scenarios (red is pessimistic, blue is realistic and green is optimistic). Credit: Copernicus Climate Change Service, ECMWF. |
https://climate.copernicus.eu/latest-projections-future-climate-now-available
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Steve, please explain, why ,at this point, polluting the the earth's waterways mining precious metals then being beholden to our political enemies, cluttering miles of landscape with ugly fuqing wind turbines and solar panels and pumping more dinosaur sludge to build ev's is better for the environment?
Haven't we, most of the earth's human population, cluttered and choked waterways and oceans with petroleum based garbage? Do a little research on microplastic particles being found in every ocean on the planet.
Don't you think it would be a good idea to clean up the big heap of shit we've already made before we create another? All the bobbleheads and scientists cannot predict how bad this next disaster will be, and I doubt they care as long as they get the big bucks.
The crap we hear now is bought and paid for by .gov/lobbyist. You cannot deny it.
Why is it humans like crap where they eat 😕
This is why I believe we are not ready for for ev's, one last thing, is electric the best we can come up with.. that's not thinking very far out of the box imo. |
Because it's good for business, and gives consumers what they want. |
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Interesting you don't discount ANY of the issues I proposed.
You show your progressive stance. We'll just kick the can down the road.
You and I won't around to discuss any collateral damage..
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All things taken into account. EV's emit less CO2 total.
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