Electric vehicles are bad

[markswagen]

you know how to tell the difference between silicon implants, and saline implants ?

if you put your ear to them, and can hear the ocean, they're saline.

come to think about it, a thread about boobs, would be a lot better than a thread about electric vehicles.

[EVfun]

[zerotofifty]

[markswagen]

my local god botherers have finally learned that my door is not worth their while knocking on.
my mother said it took them almost 10 years before they were willing to try her place, after l left.
there's not much in life that gets me an angry as god botherers do.
l don't care what brand, l despise them all equally.

[skills@eurocarsplus]

[zerotofifty]

[zerotofifty]

[zerotofifty]

Back on track

https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news/audi-unveils-...ngNewsSerp

Note that the writer states...
"But it's important to note that 16.5 billion tons of fossil fuels are dug out of the Earth every year. For comparison, the clean energy transition will require just 30 million tons of minerals per year."


Note that only 30 million tones of mineral will be required for a green transition per year. but remember that pure minerals are rarely ever found. you need to dig up a lot more ore than you get the mineral from that ore. so the above article is very deceptive, 16.5 billion "dug up" verses only 30 million!!!


Per this..

https://www.ncesc.com/geographic-pedia/how-much-earth-is-moved-to-make-a-tesla-battery/

one car needs 30 tons of ore just for the Colbalt, Nickle and Copper required, NOT counting the Lithium brine needed.

So that 30 million tones of mineral is misleading in the first story.
30 million tones of ore is only enough ore for one million electric cars, (not counting the Lithium)
One million electric cars will hardly make a dent in the market, as their is nearly 275 million car in the USA.

green washing deceptive writing to be sure.


Furthermore that 16.5 billion tons of fossils fuels is a total of coal, oil and gas. But not all of that is used for fuel, some of it is used for the chemical industry, to make plastics, fertilizers, paints, roads, roofing shingles, etc... and some of that is indeed used for the manufacture or use of electric cars, again more green washing of the truth

electric cars are not all that green afterall

do to the massive amount of ores required, an electric car has a much larger CO2 manufacturing foot print than normal cars too.

electric cars are not the solution for manmade global warming, even if there were such a thing, and that assumes that global warming is a bad thing too, it may not be so bad.

craziness.

[markswagen]

you can do better than that.

[Floating VW]

[zerotofifty]

[markswagen]

terrible movie ?

l didn't think it was that bad.

[MsTaboo]

[oprn]

I went out in our -30*C weather yesterday to start the car, threw the key fob on the seat next to me and cleared the snow off before starting the car. The dash said "No key" when I got back in... the battery died in the key fob that quick!

Then when I got out on the road I checked my phone... it was dead too and I just took it off the charger before I left!

Go ahead and try to convince me that I NEED an E car here in the winter in Canada!
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[crofty]

[KTPhil]

[zerotofifty]

[oprn]

I saw my first one in the flesh yesterday at a VW dealership.

My reaction? Hot dog! That would be the perfect golf cart-limo for a group (company or family reunion game) round of golf! Can you just picture it out there on the green surrounded by a bunch of happy golfers? How many does it seat? Six, eight? Plus golf bags?

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[finster]

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