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zerotofifty
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 Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2025 10:39 am Post subject: Re: Electric vehicles are bad |
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| I don't think the greenkeeper would be impressed with you driving a 2.7 ton vehicle on their grass! |
Oh but it would make a great impression... 
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2.7 tons on the lawn is a depressing thought.
Gawd that front grill is so darn ugly, and ripe for extensive damage in even a minor parking lot bump. Looks like one large and likely pricey piece.
The designer of that grill should be dragged from his or her desk taken outside, tied to a post, and fed to wild dogs. It is that ugly. That grill of diagonal lines is puke, cyber truck like. |
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oprn
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| Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2025 6:20 am Post subject: Re: Electric vehicles are bad |
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No one designed that, you can buy it at any welding supply outlet. I forget the proper name for it but you use it when you build a headache rack your work truck. It keeps stuff in the box from breaking your back window. It's a stamped steel sheet you weld in place and you can still kind of see through it.
It's used on belt guards on industrial machinery too to keep fingers out of the pulleys.
Kind of like the latticework stuff you buy at your local lumberyard to hide the junk under your deck...
Somebody help me out with the name please!
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Dusty1
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| Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2025 7:16 am Post subject: Re: Electric vehicles are bad |
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No one designed that, you can buy it at any welding supply outlet. I forget the proper name for it but you use it when you build a headache rack your work truck. It keeps stuff in the box from breaking your back window. It's a stamped steel sheet you weld in place and you can still kind of see through it.
It's used on belt guards on industrial machinery too to keep fingers out of the pulleys.
Kind of like the latticework stuff you buy at your local lumberyard to hide the junk under your deck...
Somebody help me out with the name please! |
Sounds like you're talking about expanded steel. Looks like diamond plate only made mostly of holes.
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zerotofifty
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| Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2025 8:59 am Post subject: Re: Electric vehicles are bad |
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I dont think,it is steel.
there is no bumper to protect it, easy to damage
it is ugly
it is artistically out of place, a very angular design on a rounded design front.
looks like crap on that bus. |
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oprn
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| Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2025 1:56 pm Post subject: Re: Electric vehicles are bad |
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Sounds like you're talking about expanded steel.
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That's the word I was trying to retrieve from this old brain, thanks!
Ya, totally out of place. There is no radiator so no need for all the airflow. I cannot see it enhancing the aerodynamics. Quite the opposite I would suspect. If it was put there just for looks they missed that mark by a mile!
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KTPhil 
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| Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2025 2:10 pm Post subject: Re: Electric vehicles are bad |
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Sounds like you're talking about expanded steel.
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That's the word I was trying to retrieve from this old brain, thanks!
Ya, totally out of place. There is no radiator so no need for all the airflow. I cannot see it enhancing the aerodynamics. Quite the opposite I would suspect. If it was put there just for looks they missed that mark by a mile! |
Reminds me of our screen front door growing up...
If they wanted retro appeal, they should have gone "full V", but chickened out and tried to have it both ways. Fail.
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zerotofifty
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| Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2025 4:48 pm Post subject: Re: Electric vehicles are bad |
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Dusty1
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| Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2025 5:50 am Post subject: Re: Electric vehicles are bad |
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Are we talking about the stupid new Fake Bus, now?
VW should have dusted off the 23 window dies that are surely in a warehouse in Brazil somewhere. Build an absolutely authentic 23 window aside from a electric propulsion and a slim battery taking up the entire cargo floor. We'll call the new Bus a "Barn Door" 'cuz that's what the battery looks like.
As I may have mentioned it's not a crazy idea. Ford has (or had) their new (ish) Mustang that looks suspiciously like my '70 Mach 1. Chrysler had their Challenger or Charger or whatever it was. Aside from tall rims and lack of bumpers Nixon might was well be president. Then there's Chevy's "We all played with Hot Wheels, didn't you?" Camaro tribute.
Volkswagen... talk about a marketing misser.
Well heeled neo- Hippies will pay $100k for a nice Deluxe Bus. Give 'em what they really want.
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Dusty1
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| Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2025 8:18 am Post subject: Re: Electric vehicles are bad |
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Where is the screaming in absolute horror emoji? Like Stephen King meets Clive Barker...
The sommelier at Trader Joe's compared me to Jerry yesterday.
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TDCTDI
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| Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2025 2:11 pm Post subject: Re: Electric vehicles are bad |
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Tesla is the new Pinto.
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It’s crazy to think that the Cyber Truck managed to skirt crash test standards.
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kingkarmann
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| Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2025 10:04 am Post subject: Re: Electric vehicles are bad |
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Are we talking about the stupid new Fake Bus, now?
VW should have dusted off the 23 window dies that are surely in a warehouse in Brazil somewhere. Build an absolutely authentic 23 window aside from a electric propulsion and a slim battery taking up the entire cargo floor. We'll call the new Bus a "Barn Door" 'cuz that's what the battery looks like.
As I may have mentioned it's not a crazy idea. Ford has (or had) their new (ish) Mustang that looks suspiciously like my '70 Mach 1. Chrysler had their Challenger or Charger or whatever it was. Aside from tall rims and lack of bumpers Nixon might was well be president. Then there's Chevy's "We all played with Hot Wheels, didn't you?" Camaro tribute.
Volkswagen... talk about a marketing misser.
Well heeled neo- Hippies will pay $100k for a nice Deluxe Bus. Give 'em what they really want.
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Purchase a prefab 21 window body and make your own EV.
https://classicsteelbody.com/collections/bodies/products/fully-assembled-23-window-bus-body |
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oprn
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| Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2025 5:10 am Post subject: Re: Electric vehicles are bad |
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If I had the cash to build one of those I definitely would not downgrade it to an EV!
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Dusty1
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| Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2025 6:15 am Post subject: Re: Electric vehicles are bad |
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| Purchase a prefab 21 window body and make your own EV. |
Me being me, I'd buy a scruffy single cab and stuff about 300 gasoline powered horsepower in the treasure chest, mid- engine.
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finster
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| Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2025 7:15 am Post subject: Re: Electric vehicles are bad |
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just heard on the radio (bbc uk) that the uk government is considering underwriting cheap loans to encourage people to buy evs  do they never learn?
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oprn
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| do they never learn? |
Nope!
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TDCTDI
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Traded a Cybertruck for the Buzz.
Frying pan, meet fire.
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zerotofifty
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Traded a Cybertruck for the Buzz.
Frying pan, meet fire. |
heated seats and heated steering wheel. Is that cause it doesnt have the ability to heat the cabin without losing too much range? |
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KTPhil
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Traded a Cybertruck for the Buzz.
Frying pan, meet fire. |
heated seats and heated steering wheel. Is that cause it doesn't have the ability to heat the cabin without losing too much range? |
Yes, but this has been true of all electric cars going back at least to the BMW i3.
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busdaddy
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I'm really impressed that anyone has 38 minutes of spare time to watch stuff like that, clearly I have better things to do, thanks for boiling it down for me (I'll guess how it ends). 
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raygreenwood
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| Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2025 6:41 pm Post subject: Re: Electric vehicles are bad |
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| I'm really impressed that anyone has 38 minutes of spare time to watch stuff like that, clearly I have better things to do, thanks for boiling it down for me (I'll guess how it ends). |
I skimmed it weeks ago. Disaster because....wait for it...spent hours driving around looking for a charger!
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