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kintail Samba Member
Joined: January 01, 2003 Posts: 595 Location: Canada
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Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2004 8:50 pm Post subject: Barndoor 16" rims - two types |
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Looking at two sets of barndoor rims today..... the 1/53 set has the inner rim welded to the outer.
The 3/53 set has the inner rim riveted to the outer and an indent stamped in the rim for the air valve. Can't find anything in the T2 Spec guide on the rim difference or anywhere else for that matter.
So the question for the Barndoor fanatic is.... was there a supplier change during this time frame or did VW take wheels from two suppliers when building the barndoors?
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Hebster52 Samba Member
Joined: March 14, 2003 Posts: 1773 Location: Finland, Jakobstad
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krusher Samba Member
Joined: September 24, 2002 Posts: 7652 Location: europe
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Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 1:29 am Post subject: |
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yes vw used two manufactures for wheels, one used a welded construction and the other a riveted construction, people think the rivited wheels predate the welded, but they were both manufactured at the same time, the barndoor size is 16 3.5, and should have 5.50 16 tyres. _________________ (06:31:07) RoachGhia: "i drink dick way too fast" |
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kintail Samba Member
Joined: January 01, 2003 Posts: 595 Location: Canada
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Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 7:31 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the info....
Here's what it says on the rivetted rims:
4 53 KRONPRINZ 3.50D X 16 DIN with a time expired Goodyear bias ply 6.00 - 16
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campingbox Samba Member
Joined: November 14, 2000 Posts: 10196 Location: Petaluma, CA
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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 1:27 pm Post subject: |
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I need two riveted 15" bus rims if you guys bump into spares....they need to be in good condition. |
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FBIVW Samba Member
Joined: August 13, 2002 Posts: 221 Location: Gower, South Wales. UK
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Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 1:57 pm Post subject: 16's |
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Is it fair to say the 3.5's x 16" with the valve indent and drilled hole opposite are early barndoor or?? |
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Scotty Samba Member
Joined: July 02, 2003 Posts: 1531 Location: Northampton - Uk
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Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 12:50 am Post subject: |
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I think the indent around the valve makes it an earlier wheel _________________
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I'd be curious to know the length of his tip.
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FBIVW Samba Member
Joined: August 13, 2002 Posts: 221 Location: Gower, South Wales. UK
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Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 1:52 am Post subject: 16's |
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I thought so too but hearing that they are around with indent and 53 year stamp makes them slightly later than I thought.. I'll poke around for a date on them.. |
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bubba Samba Member
Joined: May 09, 2004 Posts: 2531 Location: Florida
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Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 5:35 am Post subject: |
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Scotty wrote: |
I think the indent around the valve makes it an earlier wheel |
Scotty , I don't know about that??? My 50 (dated 3/50) didn't have indents... I think it was the different makers maybe? Not 100% sure... _________________ ***WANTED***
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FBIVW Samba Member
Joined: August 13, 2002 Posts: 221 Location: Gower, South Wales. UK
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Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 5:55 am Post subject: |
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Just found a jan 51 date stamp on one of mine. They are all Kronprinz riveted ones. Date stamps are faint on these early ones. |
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Tonny_Larsen Samba Member
Joined: July 02, 2003 Posts: 371 Location: Denmark
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Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 9:04 am Post subject: |
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bubba wrote: |
Scotty wrote: |
I think the indent around the valve makes it an earlier wheel |
Scotty , I don't know about that??? My 50 (dated 3/50) didn't have indents... I think it was the different makers maybe? Not 100% sure... |
And mine are dated 2-50, and have not the indents
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=272114
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thenastyfasty Samba Member
Joined: April 21, 2009 Posts: 120 Location: swansea
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Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 10:19 am Post subject: |
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Just to add more confusion to this i have 3! types of barndoor 16s in my garage, i have the welded type and the riveted type as mentioned already but i also have one thats like the welded type without the indent for the valve hole but its riveted in 4 places were the welds should be, the date is unreadable as is the make _________________ 67 fastback rhd
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FBIVW Samba Member
Joined: August 13, 2002 Posts: 221 Location: Gower, South Wales. UK
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Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 11:47 am Post subject: |
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We know the non valve indented wheels come riveted or welded it depends which manufacturer produced them. (Kronprinz riveted / Lemmertz welded)
As far as I have observed the valve indented wheels are all riveted. |
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gatorwyatt Samba Member
Joined: April 24, 2002 Posts: 1867 Location: Clearwater Fl.
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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 3:11 pm Post subject: |
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Don't forget about Fudrad made wheels which have a slight difference inthe offset of the centers from the barrel. _________________ www.blastserv.com
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Scotty Samba Member
Joined: July 02, 2003 Posts: 1531 Location: Northampton - Uk
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Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 5:31 am Post subject: |
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Looks like I'm wrong then. It was a long time ago when I heard that rumour _________________
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I'd be curious to know the length of his tip.
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peter schepens Samba Member
Joined: April 17, 2003 Posts: 1014 Location: belgium Caesars camp
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Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 9:41 am Post subject: |
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gatorwyatt wrote: |
Don't forget about Fudrad made wheels which have a slight difference inthe offset of the centers from the barrel. |
Actualy it is Südrad. Cheers. _________________ Zelensis, glassfibre body made in Belgium , disigned and built on a VW platform About 25 body's built.
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