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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2022 5:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Buggeee's 1966 Sportsmobile Camper by Travel Equipment Corp Reply with quote

Gaining access for new transaxle mounts, shift rod bushings and clean up.


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Fortuitous, I might add, because in removing the parking brake cables to pull the rear end, I found one of the brand new wheel cylinders was leaking. Here is why.


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This is what happens when you find a package deal on 6 cylinders for a hundred bucks on eBay. A manufacturing defect.

I'll check the front ones too to be safe. I know, I know, but it is an economy car after all. Lol. Oh, I will never fully see these as the mountains of gold that they truly have become. I'm to old for that and grew up in an era when these were like roaches, so I find them precious for that reason instead of the market.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2022 8:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Buggeee's 1966 Sportsmobile Camper by Travel Equipment Corp Reply with quote

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...wonder if your bus realizes just how lucky it is you are now the owner...


Who rescued who, right? Makes for an enjoyable meditation Wink

Glad to have the company Bill Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 7:07 am    Post subject: Re: Buggeee's 1966 Sportsmobile Camper by Travel Equipment Corp Reply with quote

Thanks Buggeee, that is amazing that you can cut along that tight curve with that cutoff wheel. I love your skill!

Looking forward to showing my students when we return from spring break. Can I assume you made several passes like this video?


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...what tool did you uses to cut that curve out so nicely?...


Thank you L! The support and positive vibe in this community is fantastic.

Here's how that went down.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 2:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Buggeee's 1966 Sportsmobile Camper by Travel Equipment Corp Reply with quote

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Thanks Buggeee, that is amazing that you can cut along that tight curve with that cutoff wheel. I love your skill!

Looking forward to showing my students when we return from spring break. Can I assume you made several passes like this video?


Nope. Not how I did it.

No skill at all was utilized in my method.

I cut those pie pieces out first with the cut-off wheel in straight lines, you can see the progression in the shaded areas of the pictures.

Then I cleaned up the remaining edge to obtain the curve with the die grinder and a miniature flap disk, the tool that is laying on the paper in that picture.

if I tried to do it the way that is suggested in the video, I was afraid of losing the control of the cut-off wheel and running across that little tab for the screw . I only had one opportunity and could not afford to lose that little tab, so I chewed it off in little pieces and then smoothed it into submission with the little flap disk.


That video scares me because we need to WEAR A FACE SHIELD!!!!!

Although that guy in the video is wearing eye protection, WHEN THE CUT-OFF WHEEL SHATTERS IT SHOOTS SHRAPNEL that can cut right through the face and neck, so a face shield is necessary when using a cut off wheel.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 3:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Buggeee's 1966 Sportsmobile Camper by Travel Equipment Corp Reply with quote

Nothing says "I love you" to a Bus like a thorough enima.

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Every person has their limit, and I found mine lying under my bus with a wire brush. Screw that! Bring in the power washer. It worked much better too, blasting off anything that was no longer happy clinging to the under belly.


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What ever is left under there is truly a permanent resident.

Time to air her out.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 23, 2022 6:59 am    Post subject: Re: Buggeee's 1966 Sportsmobile Camper by Travel Equipment Corp Reply with quote

Thank you, Iíll try some experimenting this summer I love what you have done. I also like your power washer treatment. Did you add a solution in the container to improve washing?

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Thanks Buggeee, that is amazing that you can cut along that tight curve with that cutoff wheel. I love your skill!

Looking forward to showing my students when we return from spring break. Can I assume you made several passes like this video?


Nope. Not how I did it.

No skill at all was utilized in my method.

I cut those pie pieces out first with the cut-off wheel in straight lines, you can see the progression in the shaded areas of the pictures.

Then I cleaned up the remaining edge to obtain the curve with the die grinder and a miniature flap disk, the tool that is laying on the paper in that picture.

if I tried to do it the way that is suggested in the video, I was afraid of losing the control of the cut-off wheel and running across that little tab for the screw . I only had one opportunity and could not afford to lose that little tab, so I chewed it off in little pieces and then smoothed it into submission with the little flap disk.


That video scares me because we need to WEAR A FACE SHIELD!!!!!

Although that guy in the video is wearing eye protection, WHEN THE CUT-OFF WHEEL SHATTERS IT SHOOTS SHRAPNEL that can cut right through the face and neck, so a face shield is necessary when using a cut off wheel.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 23, 2022 5:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Buggeee's 1966 Sportsmobile Camper by Travel Equipment Corp Reply with quote

LAGrunthaner wrote:
Did you add a solution in the container to improve washing?


Just water on this one. I sprayed the frame horns with simple green the night before where I had scraped off the transaxle tar, and let that stay over night. That's all though.

I didn't want to use a detergent in the power washer because I did not want any residue in the seams. I am using a water based converter primer and want it to creep into everything.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 23, 2022 5:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Buggeee's 1966 Sportsmobile Camper by Travel Equipment Corp Reply with quote

I've got the whole underside of the bus from behind the front wheels all the way back to the engine compartment fully coated with converter primer. I'm trying this water based converter and have fallen right into love with it. Very easy to use. No special prep. Just knock off the loose stuff, have it clean and spray it. It's based on phosphoric acid. It does not need a top coat, but can be top coated with anything as well.

I used the undercoating gun with the hoses to do inside the frame cavities and inside the rockers. The hose nozzles made getting into the tight areas of the tortion tubes, etc. convenient as well. I splattered the engine compartment and transaxle areas with the undercoating gun, no tubes, and had the atomization up as high as it would go. This was very fast, but also very heavy. In a couple of particularly heavy spots it cracked so the next day I hit that again with the paint sprayer. Underneath I did not have room so I used the little detail gun from Harbor freight. The can can rotate all around so you can shoot straight up with it. It is slow going with that though, because it is small.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 23, 2022 5:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Buggeee's 1966 Sportsmobile Camper by Travel Equipment Corp Reply with quote

I have decided to have some fun with the red and white colors on the bus. One of my crew has a cricket machine so I ordered some transfer paper and he printed some stencils for me.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 23, 2022 5:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Buggeee's 1966 Sportsmobile Camper by Travel Equipment Corp Reply with quote

False patina for the rear corner so it blends in. This is just a half rattle can I had sitting around in Heirloom White and happens to be close, fogged at the transition to the old paint, and then some brown primer dusting at horizontal to the surface, from the direction of existing patina areas into the new areas

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2022 2:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Buggeee's 1966 Sportsmobile Camper by Travel Equipment Corp Reply with quote

Transaxle and reduction boxes have been cleaned, painted and are ready to go back in

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2022 6:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Buggeee's 1966 Sportsmobile Camper by Travel Equipment Corp Reply with quote

Looking good! That corner looks amazing!
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2022 6:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Buggeee's 1966 Sportsmobile Camper by Travel Equipment Corp Reply with quote

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I've got the whole underside of the bus from behind the front wheels all the way back to the engine compartment fully coated with converter primer. I'm trying this water based converter and have fallen right into love with it. Very easy to use. No special prep. Just knock off the loose stuff, have it clean and spray it. It's based on phosphoric acid. It does not need a top coat, but can be top coated with anything as well.

I used the undercoating gun with the hoses to do inside the frame cavities and inside the rockers. The hose nozzles made getting into the tight areas of the tortion tubes, etc. convenient as well. I splattered the engine compartment and transaxle areas with the undercoating gun, no tubes, and had the atomization up as high as it would go. This was very fast, but also very heavy. In a couple of particularly heavy spots it cracked so the next day I hit that again with the paint sprayer. Underneath I did not have room so I used the little detail gun from Harbor freight. The can can rotate all around so you can shoot straight up with it. It is slow going with that though, because it is small.


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So it was like painting the entire undercarriage primer red? Is the OG paint/primer still underneath it?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2022 8:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Buggeee's 1966 Sportsmobile Camper by Travel Equipment Corp Reply with quote

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So it was like painting the entire undercarriage primer red? Is the OG paint/primer still underneath it?


It was like that. The color of this is like primer red. It is not red oxide primer, however. It is a rust converter primer. Here is a link to their web page on this product. https://xionlab.com/rust-converter-metal-primer

The OG primer is under there, what was left of it. There was very little if it left. Almost all surfaces were fully "patina" surface rust. I did not have to take it to bare metal, or do the steps that would be necessary to POR 15. Just remove loose stuff and then spray this on to do it's chemical reaction. Here is a quote from the web page and I don't have any idea what it means, but it sounds scientific:

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Our Rust Conveter & Primer is a cementatious coating that is not based on normal resins, but which bonds like cement. Cement bonds by the crystallization of chloride and hydroxides and our product bonds by the combination of phosphates with aluminum hydroxides. The advantage of this type of bonding is twofold: 1. It gives the coating an extremely hard surface. 2. The bond can take place in the presence of water which means that our rust treatment may be used on a damp surface. Our rust converter and metal primer is a low VOC (less than 1% by weight) phosphating paint, making it the only successful paint to convert corrosion salts such as iron oxide to phosphates. These phosphates which may take the form of iron phosphate, zinc phosphate, chromium phosphate, etc. are resistant to oxidation and therefore prevent corrosion.


I had considered going over this with gray epoxy primer to look like the factory, but do not think I will at this point as this bus is not a restoration and I still have work to do one day in the future on the outriggers and jack points. Also the rocker replacement inner and outer by some long-ago Prior Owner is amateurish, though very solid. If I ever get to the point of taking the time to tear out the Prior Owner's rocker work and redo it in a more sophisticated way, then I would be more inclined to give it all a grey epoxy top coat for that factory flavor. Before I ever think of any of that I have some work in the nose to tackle. I've gathered the metal for the front end, but summer is calling and that will be shelved for now, being better suited for cold weather activities after the cruising season has passed.

I do, however, intend to paint the engine compartment L87 Pearl White (the stock color) if my maker is willing. First, I have to let this cure for at least 48 hours before topcoating the engine compartment with sealer and then the single stage urethane L87 that is in line for duty.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2022 8:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Buggeee's 1966 Sportsmobile Camper by Travel Equipment Corp Reply with quote

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Looking good! That corner looks amazing!


Dude, thank you. Made my day.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2022 7:41 am    Post subject: Re: Buggeee's 1966 Sportsmobile Camper by Travel Equipment Corp Reply with quote

Looking good, that corner blending is impressive. Nice work on the lettering too!
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2022 4:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Buggeee's 1966 Sportsmobile Camper by Travel Equipment Corp Reply with quote

The engine compartment is now the stock L87 Pearl White. Two coats of single stage urethane covered that red converter primer just fine. I didn't even use a sealer first and that stuff did not bleed through. A very positive experience with that Xion Labs.

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Now to do everything again, in reverse order!


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Looking good, that corner blending is impressive. Nice work on the lettering too!


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2022 6:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Buggeee's 1966 Sportsmobile Camper by Travel Equipment Corp Reply with quote

One of my favorite threads, really nice work. Iíve been looking for a good product to use on my frame and floor, might go with yours. It looks really good.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2022 6:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Buggeee's 1966 Sportsmobile Camper by Travel Equipment Corp Reply with quote

Any progress is good progress. New mounts for the transaxle...


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And, using my inexpensive Harbor Freight metric tap and die kit, cleaned the threads in the reduction boxes and the bolts...

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And put a new bushing on the shift rod...


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The one it replaced was still about half life remaining...

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The other one was still like brand new so I refused that one. (Plus the bushing kit only came with one new one so I got a bit lucky here...

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Installed a new rear shift coupler in place of the old one, which was separating. And used anti-seize so the next caretaker won't have to torch it to cherry red to get it off as had been necessary for me...

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And slathered the rod with copious amounts of grease as it made it's way through the tube, it really does slide easily now...

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That's all for now. Enjoyable session.
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