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SyncroHead Samba Member
Joined: May 23, 2005 Posts: 1145 Location: Northern Nevada
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Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2022 7:02 pm Post subject: Dimmable, dual-color dome light development |
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My good friend Jim Howard originally developed a Vanagon dome light replacement that is dimmable and also has both white and amber (yellow/gold) light.
Dimmable for when you only want a modest amount of light.
Amber for when you don't want to attract bugs.
A few of us have one of these 1st gen lights, but we're developing a 2nd generation because of changes in the electronic components supply chain. I figured I'd provide a little insight as to what we're up to.
First, the light looks exactly like an original OEM light fixture aside from two small buttons used for dimming, brightening, and to switch from white to amber light.
Here's a look at the 1st gen light. Second generation will look identical.
The new circuit board for the Gen 2 version is in and ready for assembly and testing.
If all goes well these will be at www.VANAVATION.com about the end of April.
These are hand assembled in fairly low quantities, so they are not cheap though.
Is this of interest?
Jim Davis _________________ "A Vanagon? It's not a car or a van. It's a hobby!"
Check out:
www.VANAVATION.com
www.SyncroSafari.org and
www.Vanagons.org
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DanHoug Samba Member
Joined: December 05, 2016 Posts: 4800 Location: Bemidji, MN
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Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 5:35 am Post subject: Re: Dimmable, dual-color dome light development |
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kudos for tooling up for small runs!
interesting article on lamp color effect on insect attraction. true amber vs yellow is significantly better at not attracting. people in northern MN have gotten away from using yellow bulbs in their porch lights but 'back in the day' that was all the rage.
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smithsonian-institu...180977495/ _________________ -dan
60% of what you find on the internet is wrong, including this post.
'87 Westy & '89 Westy both 2.1 4spd
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4Gears4Tires Samba Member
Joined: October 08, 2018 Posts: 3054 Location: MD
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Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 6:16 am Post subject: Re: Dimmable, dual-color dome light development |
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I think white/red would be a more attractive option to me. It would be nice to have some night time lights. But white/amber sounds good too. _________________ '87 Syncro
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SyncroHead Samba Member
Joined: May 23, 2005 Posts: 1145 Location: Northern Nevada
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Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:13 am Post subject: Re: Dimmable, dual-color dome light development |
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DanHoug wrote: |
kudos for tooling up for small runs!
interesting article on lamp color effect on insect attraction. true amber vs yellow is significantly better at not attracting. |
Thank you.
Yes, We've definitely done a bit of research before selecting our particular LEDs for the best amber light frequency.
Jim Davis _________________ "A Vanagon? It's not a car or a van. It's a hobby!"
Check out:
www.VANAVATION.com
www.SyncroSafari.org and
www.Vanagons.org
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tjet Samba Member
Joined: June 10, 2014 Posts: 3533 Location: CA & NM
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Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:09 pm Post subject: Re: Dimmable, dual-color dome light development |
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Hey Jim, not to sidetrack, but I was looking at that website, and this reflective tape kit for the hatch is a great idea. If I can make a suggestion, maybe add a couple of clips or something to the rear hatch so you can hang the engine lid on. I broke down a few years ago on the interstate. It was at night & raining. Big rigs were driving by spraying me while I was working on the engine. I was able to get it started & down the off ramp - but I needed to go back & get the lid that I had leaning on the side - duh. A hanging lid would have given me some additional weather protection, along with a warning to other drivers if I had your tape kit on it (as well as not losing it like I did).
Anyway, great ideas. I agree with the red LED light option in the dome light.
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SyncroHead Samba Member
Joined: May 23, 2005 Posts: 1145 Location: Northern Nevada
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Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:44 pm Post subject: Re: Dimmable, dual-color dome light development |
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tjet wrote: |
Hey Jim, not to sidetrack, but I was looking at that website, and this reflective tape kit for the hatch is a great idea. If I can make a suggestion, maybe add a couple of clips or something to the rear hatch so you can hang the engine lid on. I broke down a few years ago on the interstate. It was at night & raining. Big rigs were driving by spraying me while I was working on the engine. I was able to get it started & down the off ramp - but I needed to go back & get the lid that I had leaning on the side - duh. A hanging lid would have given me some additional weather protection, along with a warning to other drivers if I had your tape kit on it (as well as not losing it like I did). |
I must admit the reflective tape idea is definitely not my own. I just decided to make it easy by providing a ready-made kit of it. The hanging cover is a good idea that I'll experiment with. It would get it up higher and potentially make it more visible to oncoming drivers. I'll experiment as it may be too high since headlights have an upper cut-off to keep the light on the road and not in other driver's eyes.
Jim Davis _________________ "A Vanagon? It's not a car or a van. It's a hobby!"
Check out:
www.VANAVATION.com
www.SyncroSafari.org and
www.Vanagons.org
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SyncroHead Samba Member
Joined: May 23, 2005 Posts: 1145 Location: Northern Nevada
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Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:45 pm Post subject: Re: Dimmable, dual-color dome light development |
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4Gears4Tires wrote: |
I think white/red would be a more attractive option to me. It would be nice to have some night time lights. But white/amber sounds good too. |
Seems you and tjet want to start your own "red light" districts!
Jim Davis _________________ "A Vanagon? It's not a car or a van. It's a hobby!"
Check out:
www.VANAVATION.com
www.SyncroSafari.org and
www.Vanagons.org
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kguarnotta Samba Member
Joined: April 01, 2004 Posts: 1160 Location: Woodstock, NH
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Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2022 12:20 pm Post subject: Re: Dimmable, dual-color dome light development |
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I'm interested in a light like that...
I find the current lights too bright when I don't want them bright, and too dim when I want them bright...
Would the bulbs be LED? (I like low current draw)
Would the white be a cool white or warm white (I'd vote for warm white)
thanks - and I appreciate the innovation... _________________ -Kevin
Lincoln, MA
'86 Triple Knob Syncro w/EJ22
'78 Westy
'69 Single Cab
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4Gears4Tires Samba Member
Joined: October 08, 2018 Posts: 3054 Location: MD
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Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2022 1:23 pm Post subject: Re: Dimmable, dual-color dome light development |
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SyncroHead wrote: |
4Gears4Tires wrote: |
I think white/red would be a more attractive option to me. It would be nice to have some night time lights. But white/amber sounds good too. |
Seems you and tjet want to start your own "red light" districts!
Jim Davis |
Bow chicka bow wow!
_________________ '87 Syncro
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Aryana Samba Member
Joined: November 09, 2015 Posts: 568 Location: Southern CA
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Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2022 8:52 pm Post subject: Re: Dimmable, dual-color dome light development |
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I'd be interested. |
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Gnarlodious Samba Member
Joined: September 28, 2013 Posts: 2323 Location: Adobe Jungle USA
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Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2022 5:28 am Post subject: Re: Dimmable, dual-color dome light development |
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Does it pop into the bulb holder like the LED boards?
What is the 5v terminal for? _________________ Vanagon ’83 diesel AAZ w/Giles injection, 5spd 4.57R&P+TBD and a '78 diesel Rabbit |
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DuncanS Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2022 5:52 am Post subject: Re: Dimmable, dual-color dome light development |
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Red does not destroy your nighttime vision and is used for navigation in all airplanes and boats/ships. That's why you want red. Even a brief exposure to white takes 10 minutes to restore night vision.
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SyncroHead Samba Member
Joined: May 23, 2005 Posts: 1145 Location: Northern Nevada
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Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2022 10:29 am Post subject: Re: Dimmable, dual-color dome light development |
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4Gears4Tires wrote: |
I think white/red would be a more attractive option to me. It would be nice to have some night time lights. But white/amber sounds good too. |
tjet wrote: |
Anyway, great ideas. I agree with the red LED light option in the dome light. |
DuncanS wrote: |
Red does not destroy your nighttime vision and is used for navigation in all airplanes and boats/ships. That's why you want red. Even a brief exposure to white takes 10 minutes to restore night vision.
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I agree red would also be a good option, so we're now investigating a future production run with red LEDs instead of the amber color. Little or no bug dis-attraction benefit with the red, but great for preserving nighttime vision. Especially useful for stargazing.
Jim Davis _________________ "A Vanagon? It's not a car or a van. It's a hobby!"
Check out:
www.VANAVATION.com
www.SyncroSafari.org and
www.Vanagons.org
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SyncroHead Samba Member
Joined: May 23, 2005 Posts: 1145 Location: Northern Nevada
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Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2022 10:34 am Post subject: Re: Dimmable, dual-color dome light development |
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Gnarlodious wrote: |
Does it pop into the bulb holder like the LED boards?
What is the 5v terminal for? |
No, this replaces the entire fixture. This is needed because of the need for the two little buttons used for dimming and changing color modes.
The 5v is the internal driver voltage for the LEDs, and is unimportant to the user. This new fixture is installed simply by removing the old fixture (with it's original bulb) and installing the new one just like the old one that was removed.
Jim Davis _________________ "A Vanagon? It's not a car or a van. It's a hobby!"
Check out:
www.VANAVATION.com
www.SyncroSafari.org and
www.Vanagons.org
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mottoguzzi Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2022 1:11 pm Post subject: Re: Dimmable, dual-color dome light development |
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Spark of Imagination? |
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SyncroHead Samba Member
Joined: May 23, 2005 Posts: 1145 Location: Northern Nevada
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Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2022 8:36 pm Post subject: Re: Dimmable, dual-color dome light development |
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mottoguzzi wrote: |
Spark of Imagination? |
Spark of Imagination was the company name of Jim Howard, the designer of this special light fixture. I'm now selling these instead of him and we're collaborating on the 2nd generation product.
A few may know Spark of Imagination for the amazing QuietGlide sliding door rollers. I now provide this product too on the www.VANAVATION.com website.
Jim Davis _________________ "A Vanagon? It's not a car or a van. It's a hobby!"
Check out:
www.VANAVATION.com
www.SyncroSafari.org and
www.Vanagons.org
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SyncroHead Samba Member
Joined: May 23, 2005 Posts: 1145 Location: Northern Nevada
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Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2022 9:09 pm Post subject: Re: Dimmable, dual-color dome light development |
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kguarnotta wrote: |
I'm interested in a light like that...
I find the current lights too bright when I don't want them bright, and too dim when I want them bright...
Would the bulbs be LED? (I like low current draw)
Would the white be a cool white or warm white (I'd vote for warm white)
thanks - and I appreciate the innovation... |
Sorry that I missed your question earlier.
Yes, it's and LED fixture so current draw is much less than original "festoon" incandescent bulbs.
The white LED is indeed in the "warm" range of color.
Jim Davis _________________ "A Vanagon? It's not a car or a van. It's a hobby!"
Check out:
www.VANAVATION.com
www.SyncroSafari.org and
www.Vanagons.org
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michaelasnider Samba Member
Joined: September 27, 2013 Posts: 369 Location: East Kootenays, Canada
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Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2022 8:08 am Post subject: Re: Dimmable, dual-color dome light development |
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I would be interested. Red would be a great idea - my wife and I sneak into the van at night while our toddler sleeps up top. |
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SyncroHead Samba Member
Joined: May 23, 2005 Posts: 1145 Location: Northern Nevada
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Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2022 7:51 pm Post subject: Re: Dimmable, dual-color dome light development |
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The new lights are almost available.
Here's a couple pics of the guide jig we're using to bore holes in the plastic fixture for the control buttons. Their location is important to line up with the circuit board.
Here's how the buttons work:
- Press the upper one to increase the brightness
- Press the lower button to reduce the brightness
- Press both simultaneously to switch color modes
Jim Davis _________________ "A Vanagon? It's not a car or a van. It's a hobby!"
Check out:
www.VANAVATION.com
www.SyncroSafari.org and
www.Vanagons.org
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Aryana Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2022 9:28 am Post subject: Re: Dimmable, dual-color dome light development |
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I'd definitely be interested in the red ones! |
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