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craegandbritt Samba Member
Joined: January 30, 2021 Posts: 30 Location: Utah
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Posted: Sun May 15, 2022 11:12 am Post subject: GKN Lobro Axle Differences? Two Types? |
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I just received 2 brand new GKN Lobro Axle assemblies and the axle shafts are different. See below. Besides the physical appearance is there any difference in these axles?
The one on the left is a little thicker in the middle which I like and the boot grooves are different.
Would love to know the difference and if it is worth sending one back or if it doesn't really matter?
Thanks! _________________ 1984 Vanagon Westfalia 2.5L Subaru |
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crazyvwvanman Samba Member
Joined: January 28, 2008 Posts: 9937 Location: Orbiting San Diego
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Posted: Sun May 15, 2022 12:22 pm Post subject: Re: GKN LoBro Axle Differences? Two Types? |
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The one on the left looks a lot like one of the aftermarket axle shafts I've seen and used, from China.
These are known to sometimes fail under duress that stock axle shafts survive.
The axle shaft on the right looks more like a factory Vanagon axle.
Mark |
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craegandbritt Samba Member
Joined: January 30, 2021 Posts: 30 Location: Utah
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Posted: Sun May 15, 2022 12:47 pm Post subject: Re: GKN LoBro Axle Differences? Two Types? |
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They both came in identical boxes with GKN logos. I’ll reach out to the supplier. Interesting because the one on the left feels much nicer. The one on the right is similar to the Chinese ones I pulled off my van. _________________ 1984 Vanagon Westfalia 2.5L Subaru |
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ALIKA T3 Samba Member
Joined: July 30, 2009 Posts: 6360 Location: Honolulu,Hawaii and France
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Posted: Sun May 15, 2022 2:29 pm Post subject: Re: GKN Lobro Axle Differences? Two Types? |
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The one on the right looks German to me. The one on the left, unknow origin. It could be from another VAG car....
The shaft on the right is not supposed to have the convex washer, and even though, it's mounted backwards
I dunno why you (and other people) buy rebuilt axles, it's mostly junk, even from Löbro; another proof today.
Just install new cv's on good old German axles, it's not a messy job if you don't have to clean the old cv's. _________________ Silicone Steering Boots and 930 Cv boots for sale in the classifieds.
Syncro transmission upgrade parts in the Classifieds.
Subaru EJ22+UN1 5 speed transmission
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=416343
Syncro http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4...num+gadget |
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crazyvwvanman Samba Member
Joined: January 28, 2008 Posts: 9937 Location: Orbiting San Diego
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Posted: Sun May 15, 2022 2:38 pm Post subject: Re: GKN LoBro Axle Differences? Two Types? |
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What markings are on all the actual joints from these axles?
I hope you kept all parts separate so each joint has its complete original mates.
Mark
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They both came in identical boxes with GKN logos. I’ll reach out to the supplier. Interesting because the one on the left feels much nicer. The one on the right is similar to the Chinese ones I pulled off my van. |
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4Gears4Tires Samba Member
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Posted: Sun May 15, 2022 8:49 pm Post subject: Re: GKN Lobro Axle Differences? Two Types? |
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The one on the left looks like the GKN axles I've received. The one on the right looks like a refurbished axle, it looks like it was rusty and then it got painted. It looks like it has a lot of pitting on the surface. _________________ '87 Syncro
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Wildthings Samba Member
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Posted: Sun May 15, 2022 9:01 pm Post subject: Re: GKN Lobro Axle Differences? Two Types? |
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I don't know if someone else mentioned it, but those look like used axles. The one on the left is the earlier Bay Window bus style. Are both the same length? |
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craegandbritt Samba Member
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Posted: Sun May 15, 2022 9:09 pm Post subject: Re: GKN Lobro Axle Differences? Two Types? |
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Alika, I was under the impression that these were new axles when I bought them. The one on the left looks brand new. I didn’t know they were selling rebuilt ones. I took off the stock joints these came with to put on 944’s.
The mechanic that originally did this job, installed Chinese axles and threw away my old axles. He told me he installed OE axles, I confronted him and he refunded me but I didn’t have any axle shafts that would fit the 944 joint.
I bought these assembled axles from Parts Geek just for the axle shafts since the Chinese axles I had won’t fit the 944’s. The 944’s do fit on both shafts so I think I can use them but I was wondering if they were real since there were no etched part numbers on the GKN joints like normal.
No markings on the joints from the axle on the right of the picture. _________________ 1984 Vanagon Westfalia 2.5L Subaru |
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ALIKA T3 Samba Member
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Posted: Sun May 15, 2022 9:51 pm Post subject: Re: GKN Lobro Axle Differences? Two Types? |
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Oh I remember the story.
The right one is German, I'm 99% positive. You can even see the old rust pitting in them, suggesting it's old.
The other one (left) could be VAG, like an Audi, or even a Porsche. If the length matches, use it, the CV joint is the important part. _________________ Silicone Steering Boots and 930 Cv boots for sale in the classifieds.
Syncro transmission upgrade parts in the Classifieds.
Subaru EJ22+UN1 5 speed transmission
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=416343
Syncro http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4...num+gadget |
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blackglasspirate Samba Member
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Posted: Mon May 16, 2022 8:22 am Post subject: Re: GKN Lobro Axle Differences? Two Types? |
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I have two shafts that look exactly like these. The left one looks like the one from an EMPI half axle. The other looks like the OEM one that I have. _________________ '87 Vanagon GL Westfalia
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