40's or late? |
Build like a Kohruss on a 40'-50's pan |
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Go late watercooled flat 4 and have some brakes. |
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sinclair Samba Member
Joined: July 01, 2004 Posts: 396 Location: New Forest UK
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Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2022 10:15 am Post subject: 1936 Steyr-VW straw poll |
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There are two ways I could go with this car. The background is it's a very early (number 16 of 10000 ish) '36 Steyr 50 found in a scrapyard and deemed too far gone to restore by the Steyr club. It was built onto a late VW chassis for a Spa meeting where it quite rightly caused a stir.
Personally I'm torn with what to do with it. I always love Bob Shail's 39 original and I could build it up on a 40's chassis just like Kohlruss would have. But is that a valid thing to do, or is it a bit too jurassic park?
My other option is embrace it's recent modification and fit it with the later waserboxer engine, after all there's a rad grill.
Why am I asking? Well, a Kohlruss rep would not be cheap and at the end would it even be a valid car? This is the place to gauge opinion.
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Blue Baron VW Aficionado
Joined: June 16, 2006 Posts: 24050 Location: Southeast USA
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Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2022 1:02 pm Post subject: Re: 1936 Steyr-VW straw poll |
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sinclair wrote: |
The background is it's a very early (number 16 of 10000 ish) '36 Steyr 50 found in a scrapyard and deemed too far gone to restore by the Steyr club. |
Apparently the Steyr Club has never looked at The Samba, because as we have all seen, especially in the barndoor forum, nothing is ever too far gone to restore, and judging from the photos, it would apply to this "Baby" as well.
Perhaps a third choice should be offered for restoring the Steyr as a proper Steyr, because if it were No. 16 of any VW series, I doubt we would be debating whether or not to slam it on earlies.
A compromise idea might be to ditch the VW pan and configure it as a "proper" Steyr, but as a resto-mod. The original Steyr had a front-mounted wasserboxer engine, driving a swingaxle rear end.
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mandraks Samba Member
Joined: November 28, 2004 Posts: 7047 Location: Lawrenceville, Ga
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Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2022 6:30 pm Post subject: Re: 1936 Steyr-VW straw poll |
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since we are throwing out options....
i would consider a thing drivetrain, make it look like it is on a kuebel chassis.
waterboxer only if you already have one.
Personally, i would just fix what you got. _________________ regards
Uli
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Glenn Mr. 010
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Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2022 6:40 pm Post subject: Re: 1936 Steyr-VW straw poll |
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Slam it on Earlies _________________ Glenn
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allsidius Samba Member
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sinclair Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2022 6:49 am Post subject: Re: 1936 Steyr-VW straw poll |
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I do have Kubel running gear in stock and an option on a rough 40’s chassis. But then what would it be? An expensive modern recreation of a non standard hybrid
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Zwitter UK Samba Member
Joined: June 18, 2004 Posts: 37 Location: Kent, UK
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Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2022 6:49 am Post subject: Re: 1936 Steyr-VW straw poll |
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Looks better at stock height.
Lowering everything just makes everything look ordinary. Same old modifications etc... (just my opinion) _________________ Good day sir |
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mandraks Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2022 8:03 am Post subject: Re: 1936 Steyr-VW straw poll |
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sinclair wrote: |
I do have Kubel running gear in stock and an option on a rough 40’s chassis. But then what would it be? An expensive modern recreation of a non standard hybrid |
there is your answer. Do it. I promise to comment with a "job well done" when the job is done
and what would it be? awesome! is what it would be. _________________ regards
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allsidius Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2022 8:04 am Post subject: Re: 1936 Steyr-VW straw poll |
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mandraks wrote: |
sinclair wrote: |
I do have Kubel running gear in stock and an option on a rough 40’s chassis. But then what would it be? An expensive modern recreation of a non standard hybrid |
there is your answer. Do it. I promise to comment with a "job well done" when the job is done
and what would it be? awesome! is what it would be. |
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finster Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2022 10:36 am Post subject: Re: 1936 Steyr-VW straw poll |
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allsidius wrote: |
What is there to debate?
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x2 and here's the 'provenance' that it had one careful lady owner _________________ "we're here on Earth to fart around" kurt vonnegut
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mk-Zero Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2022 2:51 pm Post subject: Re: 1936 Steyr-VW straw poll |
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finster wrote: |
allsidius wrote: |
What is there to debate?
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x2 and here's the 'provenance' that it had one careful lady owner |
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