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extremebuggy
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 Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2022 12:50 pm Post subject: Rear transmission mount |
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It appears the transmission does not have any rear mounts installed. Is this ok? Should I install some since I have the engine out? Looks like the support bracket is flat. The mounts that I have found appear to have a slight curve. Will that work or do need to go ahead and install a new EMPI bracket with straps. Looking for a little advice. See photo.
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55rag
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| Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2022 1:11 pm Post subject: Re: Rear transmission mount |
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That looks like a solid mount cradle. If you want rubber mounts you would need to find the original style cradle that would allow for the rubber mounts between it and the transmission.
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extremebuggy
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| Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2022 1:17 pm Post subject: Re: Rear transmission mount |
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| 55rag wrote: |
| That looks like a solid mount cradle. If you want rubber mounts you would need to find the original style cradle that would allow for the rubber mounts between it and the transmission. |
Would there be any issues leaving the setup as is without using mounts? Leaving the solid mount cradle with no mounts? |
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55rag
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| Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2022 1:21 pm Post subject: Re: Rear transmission mount |
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It depends on what you are putting it in and how you are using the car or buggy. It would be a lot more noisy, more vibration felt and maybe more susceptible to braking parts. If it's something you are driving on the street for fun I wouldn't go solid mount.
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extremebuggy
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| Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2022 1:26 pm Post subject: Re: Rear transmission mount |
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| 55rag wrote: |
| It depends on what you are putting it in and how you are using the car or buggy. It would be a lot more noisy, more vibration felt and maybe more susceptible to braking parts. If it's something you are driving on the street for fun I wouldn't go solid mount. |
It’s a fiberglass buggy that will be used around town and such. No off road only highway use. |
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jeffrey8164 
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| Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2022 2:34 pm Post subject: Re: Rear transmission mount |
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Definitely get an original cradle then.
I highly recommend the Rhino Mounts from CB Performance.
They’re amazing.
https://www.cbperformance.com/product-p/6212.htm
They have matching shift couplers and steering rag joints too.
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extremebuggy
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55rag
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| Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2022 3:10 pm Post subject: Re: Rear transmission mount |
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I've used one in the past and was never impressed with how the strap fit. I don't think they are very effective.
I am also currently using the CB rhino front transmission mount because I was breaking stock ones and for me it's a pretty good solution. There is a bit more vibration but my car is pretty noisy anyway. I still have HD stock rear mounts though.
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55rag
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| Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2022 3:12 pm Post subject: Re: Rear transmission mount |
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What are you planning for the engine? If it's stock or near stock you don't need any of that. Just get QUALITY original mounts and you'll be driving in comfort.
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extremebuggy
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| Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2022 3:21 pm Post subject: Re: Rear transmission mount |
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| 55rag wrote: |
| What are you planning for the engine? If it's stock or near stock you don't need any of that. Just get QUALITY original mounts and you'll be driving in comfort. |
Not sure I can use original mounts without changing out the cradle since the cradle is flat and the mounts are curved. So I was just thinking that I could use original mounts if I upgraded to that cradle that JBugs have. Not too concerned with the strap, but I’ll put it on since it comes with it. |
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| Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2022 3:33 pm Post subject: Re: Rear transmission mount |
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| extremebuggy wrote: |
| 55rag wrote: |
| What are you planning for the engine? If it's stock or near stock you don't need any of that. Just get QUALITY original mounts and you'll be driving in comfort. |
Not sure I can use original mounts without changing out the cradle since the cradle is flat and the mounts are curved. So I was just thinking that I could use original mounts if I upgraded to that cradle that JBugs have. Not too concerned with the strap, but I’ll put it on since it comes with it. |
JBugs = mostly crap
get an original cradle and original rubber mounts, or the CB mounts |
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| Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2022 3:34 pm Post subject: Re: Rear transmission mount |
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Empi sells this one. It’s HD like the solid mount, but allows for stock or poly mounts. I like it so far.
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extremebuggy
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| Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2022 3:49 pm Post subject: Re: Rear transmission mount |
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| NJ John wrote: |
Empi sells this one. It’s HD like the solid mount, but allows for stock or poly mounts. I like it so far. |
That looks just like the EMPI that I was looking at from JBugs. |
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| Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2022 5:23 pm Post subject: Re: Rear transmission mount |
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I am running a solid mount on my street Buggy. Ya you get more engine “feel” through your seat. Otherwise no big deal no increase in noise at all. Works just fine, if I had the stock soft mounts my air cleaners would be banging on the body with each shift and over the bumps.
I am running a solid mount on my sand rail too.
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modok
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| Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2022 5:26 pm Post subject: Re: Rear transmission mount |
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I don't see any big problem with using a solid rear mount in a buggy.
The frame horns have a lot of flex so it isn't really that "solid"
If you solve the problem of the frame horns flexing then you may need to go back to rubber mountings.
But I would recommend a rubber or urethane nosecone mount in any case, make the nosecone mount MORe solid than the frame then it's trying to BE the frame and that can cause some problems. |
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| Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2022 5:46 pm Post subject: Re: Rear transmission mount |
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Solid mounts will undo all your tooth fillings from the vibrations. 
Use the GB 645P - original German hard rubbers. They will go on early cradles. I used them on later cars and convert the cradle is all.
These German rubber mounts are hard. NOt same as the Indian garbage too soft for my taste. |
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extremebuggy
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| Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2022 6:35 pm Post subject: Re: Rear transmission mount |
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| Lots of good and different thoughts on whether to use rear mounts or not. I may end up just not using any mounts and see how it feels. Worst case it’s too much vibration and I just have a reason to tear it back down to add the mounts. |
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modok
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| Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2022 7:00 pm Post subject: Re: Rear transmission mount |
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| extremebuggy wrote: |
| I may end up just not using any mounts and see how it feels. |
Hmm, without mountings what holds it in?
I have heard some stories about the trans falling out at speed |
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extremebuggy
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| Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2022 7:07 pm Post subject: Re: Rear transmission mount |
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| modok wrote: |
| extremebuggy wrote: |
| I may end up just not using any mounts and see how it feels. |
Hmm, without mountings what holds it in?
I have heard some stories about the trans falling out at speed |
I would just keep it like the photo and keep the flat steel cradle and not have any rubber mounts between the bell housing and the cradle. But I would do as suggested and make sure to have a rubber or urethane nose cone mount.
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