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Peter_Plade
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 Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2022 2:33 am Post subject: Black 65 Ghia |
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So I’ve been lurking here for awhile but didn’t have a Ghia before now.
I’ve been into the bugs for 26years so it’s not all new to me, even the Ghia only things I don’t know much about so expect there will be questions in the future.
I’ve bought this 65 Ghia in Finland originally it came to L.A. when new, then to Finland in 1993 and was restored in 2000-2002 and now it resides in Denmark.
I know the door panels aren’t correct but this will do for now.
This will be a driving project with changes made as I get the ideas (already plenty of them  )
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rbsurfguy
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| Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2022 2:57 am Post subject: Re: 65 ghia |
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Welcome to the Ghia side Peter! Great looking Ghia, looks like it was restored well. Can't wait to watch any changes you make.
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Era Vulgaris
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| Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2022 5:30 am Post subject: Re: 65 Ghia |
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Really nice looking Ghia! Black is such a great, underrated color on a Ghia. My first two Ghias were both black. There's something just a little bit sinistro about a black Ghia, a feeling that doesn't come across with any other color. 
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66 Karmann Ghia, L390 Gulf Blue, under construction, here: www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=760505&highlight=
99 Mazda MX-5 10AE, Sapphire Blue Mica, 6 speed, LSD
Previously owned:
98 Porsche Boxster, silver, 2.5L -- 67 Karmann Ghia, Black, 1500sp -- 98 BMW Z3, Atlanta Blue Metallic, 2.8L I6 -- 75 Porsche 914, Laguna Blue, 2270cc -- 72 Porsche 914, Signal Orange, 1.7 FI -- 74 Karmann Ghia, Black, 1600dp -- 74 Triumph TR6 with O.D., sapphire blue |
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Craigbro
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| Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2022 9:11 am Post subject: Re: 65 Ghia |
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| I like the Black on Black with the chrome. Looks great! |
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John Moxon 
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TRS63
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Marcdeb
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aerosilver
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| Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2022 9:51 am Post subject: Re: 65 Ghia |
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| Nice looking Ghia |
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SandHamwich
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| Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2022 10:27 am Post subject: Re: 65 Ghia |
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| I m not sure anything needs to be changed. It’s beautiful! Welcome to the sophisticated side of the Samba! |
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karmann17
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Location: FRANCE
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| Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2022 12:23 am Post subject: Re: 65 Ghia |
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| Peter_Plade wrote: |
So I’ve been lurking here for awhile but didn’t have a Ghia before now.
I’ve been into the bugs for 26years so it’s not all new to me, even the Ghia only things I don’t know much about so expect there will be questions in the future.
I’ve bought this 65 Ghia in Finland originally it came to L.A. when new, then to Finland in 1993 and was restored in 2000-2002 and now it resides in Denmark.
I know the door panels aren’t correct but this will do for now.
This will be a driving project with changes made as I get the ideas (already plenty of them )
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welcome,
I also have a 65 black ghia, your talking about your door panels, I'm also interested to know witch colors was proposed in 1965 for the door panels for black body ghia?
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Era Vulgaris
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| Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2022 6:06 am Post subject: Re: 65 Ghia |
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| karmann17 wrote: |
I'm also interested to know witch colors was proposed in 1965 for the door panels for black body ghia?
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You can find the factory interior colors for each body color here, listed by model year. I posted this link in your other thread about interior colors
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/info/paintcodesghia.php
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66 Karmann Ghia, L390 Gulf Blue, under construction, here: www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=760505&highlight=
99 Mazda MX-5 10AE, Sapphire Blue Mica, 6 speed, LSD
Previously owned:
98 Porsche Boxster, silver, 2.5L -- 67 Karmann Ghia, Black, 1500sp -- 98 BMW Z3, Atlanta Blue Metallic, 2.8L I6 -- 75 Porsche 914, Laguna Blue, 2270cc -- 72 Porsche 914, Signal Orange, 1.7 FI -- 74 Karmann Ghia, Black, 1600dp -- 74 Triumph TR6 with O.D., sapphire blue |
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karmann17
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| Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2022 11:41 am Post subject: Re: 65 Ghia |
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| Era Vulgaris wrote: |
| karmann17 wrote: |
I'm also interested to know witch colors was proposed in 1965 for the door panels for black body ghia?
thank you. |
You can find the factory interior colors for each body color here, listed by model year. I posted this link in your other thread about interior colors
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/info/paintcodesghia.php |
Yes I know thank you, but I don't think they are talking about panel, only seats and carpet. Exept if there is something I don't understand...(that's really possible, I'm french) |
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Peter_Plade
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| Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2022 9:05 am Post subject: Re: Black 65 Ghia |
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Thank you all for the welcome.
Havent done much yet. But it has passed danish tech inspection so now I’m just waiting for the license plates even it’s winter here.
I’ve added a speedwell steering wheel and empi hornpush.
Euro km speedo hope to find a trip one one day.
And the week before I picked up the car I was lucky enough to find a original Ghia tach at a German swap meet and that’s also installed.
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Sebastian Gaeta
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| Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2022 7:47 pm Post subject: Re: Black 65 Ghia |
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Peter,
First of all, congrats on finding a nice car. I am quite curious about the tachometer you found. Is it wired directly to the coil or does it have the sending unit that reads the rotation of the engine pulley as seen in the drawing below?
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Peter_Plade
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| Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2022 10:22 am Post subject: Re: Black 65 Ghia |
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Peter,
First of all, congrats on finding a nice car. I am quite curious about the tachometer you found. Is it wired directly to the coil or does it have the sending unit that reads the rotation of the engine pulley as seen in the drawing below?
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Its connected directly to the coil.
I used to have a tach with sender like that on my old oval.
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pdbscw
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| Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2022 3:23 pm Post subject: Re: Black 65 Ghia |
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Hello Peter, this is Peter Az (Arizona)
I think your black ghia is badass and beautiful. I found a 65 vert last January and have restored it to my current skill levels, with paint and stock parts..
I purchased from the Orig Owner, who imported it from Germany and parked it in arizona garage for 20 years. It had a good bit of rust from some years in Hawaii, and I learnt to patch and stitch weld. There is some terrible body work still needing to be redone that I didnt see before the Turquoise paint, but its a work in progress...a driving project. One of the problems I have is that since its a vert, I cannot really lock the engine cover release (out of easy reach). Hot wire and push are the way to steal and strip the parts. P put it in the classifieds, but have found my pricing is out of touch with the advertised community. I found a 69 sedan that I wish to spend my time with now and am learning that part of ghias now.
Have a great holiday.
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mikrobi67
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| Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2022 3:21 am Post subject: Re: Black 65 Ghia |
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Peter_Plade
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| Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2022 8:42 am Post subject: Re: Black 65 Ghia |
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Hi Peter
this is not a 65 Ghia
this is from 1964 |
Cool whats the difference?
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Era Vulgaris
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| Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2022 10:54 am Post subject: Re: Black 65 Ghia |
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| mikrobi67 wrote: |
Hi Peter
this is not a 65 Ghia
this is from 1964 |
I'm not sure how you can tell that from the pictures in this thread. The definitive tell will be the VIN. '65 was the first year that the 3rd number in the VIN corresponded to the model year. If it starts with 145, then it's a '65.
Another tell, which can't be seen in the pics, is the front trunk latch. '65 was the first year for the later larger front trunk striker latch.
I also don't see a rotary heater knob in the photo of the interior. '64 was the last year for the rotary heater knob.
Another tell that it's a '65 will be the rear view mirror. '65 was the first year for the 65-66-67 style rear view mirror mounting base, where the sun visors were not hard mounted to the same base as the rear view mirror. If '65, the sun visors will be mounted to the top of the A-pillar with clips on the mirror base, so that they can detach from the mirror base and pivot to be used to shade from the side. '64 sun visors are fixed to the the rear view mirror base and can only flip down to shade from the front.
I did find this pic, not in this thread, in Peter Plade's photos though. The way that the sun visors are angled upward in the center in this photo (and you can just make out the mounting arm near the A-pillar on the driver side), would lead me to believe it has the 65 style mirror and visors
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99 Mazda MX-5 10AE, Sapphire Blue Mica, 6 speed, LSD
Previously owned:
98 Porsche Boxster, silver, 2.5L -- 67 Karmann Ghia, Black, 1500sp -- 98 BMW Z3, Atlanta Blue Metallic, 2.8L I6 -- 75 Porsche 914, Laguna Blue, 2270cc -- 72 Porsche 914, Signal Orange, 1.7 FI -- 74 Karmann Ghia, Black, 1600dp -- 74 Triumph TR6 with O.D., sapphire blue
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Era Vulgaris
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| Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2022 2:33 pm Post subject: Re: Black 65 Ghia |
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'64 rear view mirror. Sun visors hard mounted to base. Dome light is separate.
'65-66 rear view mirror. Sun visors are mounted to A-pillar, and only clip into mirror base so they can swivel. Dome light is part of rear view mirror base.
(67 has the same base, but the mirror itself is oval shaped)
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66 Karmann Ghia, L390 Gulf Blue, under construction, here: www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=760505&highlight=
99 Mazda MX-5 10AE, Sapphire Blue Mica, 6 speed, LSD
Previously owned:
98 Porsche Boxster, silver, 2.5L -- 67 Karmann Ghia, Black, 1500sp -- 98 BMW Z3, Atlanta Blue Metallic, 2.8L I6 -- 75 Porsche 914, Laguna Blue, 2270cc -- 72 Porsche 914, Signal Orange, 1.7 FI -- 74 Karmann Ghia, Black, 1600dp -- 74 Triumph TR6 with O.D., sapphire blue |
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