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Bonesberg55
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 Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2022 4:19 am Post subject: Re: Will a 1976 914 Engine/Trans fit in a 1971 914? |
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| The 2.0 pancake motor externally is pretty much the same as the earlier 1.7 so I don't see a problem with the engine. I would assume the manual trans was basically the same since I don't remember any changes other than gear ratios. I'm not an expert on the 914 but if it was me, I'd go for it. BTW, a 914 was no boat anchor. |
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Nitramrebrab72
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| Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2022 4:55 am Post subject: Re: Will a 1976 914 Engine/Trans fit in a 1971 914? |
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Your car is a pre 73 trany, in 72 at the end of the 914/6 production porsche decided redesign the linkage,as the pre 73 was difficult to adjust and keep that adjustment k within factory spec., leading a very mediocre gear change at best.
The 73 onwards was a great gearbox/linkage very smooth and precise.
What you will need to find is a complete 914 73 onwards gearbox linkage. It could be a bolt out ,bolt in the new or you might have to find and fit some a 73 onwards chassis steel work, so cut and weld. But well worth it either way.
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Nitramrebrab72
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| Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2022 5:05 am Post subject: Re: Will a 1976 914 Engine/Trans fit in a 1971 914? |
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| You need everything in the 73 onwards pic bar the gear knob, by the looks of things some minor chassis work is needed or there might exist a kit out there. I would put higher compression euro 2056 pistons and cylinders while the engine is out, it makes all the difference especially with the earlier exhaust muffler. |
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Buggeee
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Nitramrebrab72
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| Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2022 9:14 am Post subject: Re: Will a 1976 914 Engine/Trans fit in a 1971 914? |
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| Yeah those 914 engines tend to be quite solid as regards to the bottom end. But they can appreciate a top end rebuild ever so often, piston/cylinders possibly a valve job, at least a check up. If you are running the original injection you can squeeze a few more ponies out of her, those Euro pistons will increase compression, and by uping the fuel pressure a bit , fitting a variable resistor on the cylinder head temperature sensor adjusting it on a rolling whilst adding a tad of advance, especially if you change the original air filter set up. I did this lost a bit of weight and on windy country roads I was right up the back of a 993 at a porsche meet in france. |
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Nitramrebrab72
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| Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2022 10:43 am Post subject: Re: Will a 1976 914 Engine/Trans fit in a 1971 914? |
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| If it is a low mileage engine I would think twice about doing the bottom end , maybe just pull the 2 crankshaft seals ,inspect her while the pistons are out and get some engine oil on all the bearings, cam etc. at the same time if she has sat a long time.. Those type IV engines are rock solid especially just pushing a light 914 around. I did one some whilenago just the top end. I prefer to leave the bottom end unless really nessacery ,Vw\Porsche do such a good job |
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Buggeee
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Nitramrebrab72
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| Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2022 2:36 pm Post subject: Re: Will a 1976 914 Engine/Trans fit in a 1971 914? |
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Well, I traveled some distance to see it but the 71 autocross car was too butchered up to return to street duty. So I will plan to repair the rust on the 1976 complete car.
I did leave the seller with a low offer to buy the shell to cut up further for the pieces I need for the 1976. We will see.
Thank you again for the insights. |
Try and find a early 73 2.0l without an engine and trany. A lot of those were a 2.0L 914S , to fill the 914/6 gap. They had suspension upgrades, 911 leather steering wheel, and a hot resistor option on the cylinder head temperature sensor combined with a hot MPS, they give a bit me extra umff, plus a center consul and fuchs alloys as standard. |
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Starbucket
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| Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2022 12:56 pm Post subject: Re: Will a 1976 914 Engine/Trans fit in a 1971 914? |
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| Review 74 914 Restoration (down about 4 posts) and you can see what it takes to restore a rusted 914. |
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Buggeee
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r_towle
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| Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2022 5:30 pm Post subject: Re: Will a 1976 914 Engine/Trans fit in a 1971 914? |
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You might want to go look at all the sheet metal available at :
Restoration Design
914rubber.com
Automobile Atlanta (George Hussey)
Between those three, everything you need is available.
Stoddard now sells a rolling dolly for 911 and 356
With minor work you could make the rear work with a 914 chassis.
The front has the same mounting points. |
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| Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2022 10:02 am Post subject: Re: Will a 1976 914 Engine/Trans fit in a 1971 914? |
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| it will fit just fine, all you really need besides the complete power plant and shift linkage is the firewall conversion. Anyone can call me for precise 914 tech advice 10-6 m-f and 10-4 on saturdays |
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TRS63
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| Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2022 6:26 am Post subject: Re: Will a 1976 914 Engine/Trans fit in a 1971 914? |
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| Review 74 914 Restoration (down about 4 posts) and you can see what it takes to restore a rusted 914. |
Thanks for the heads up and happy my thread is being used 
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| Starbucket wrote: |
| Review 74 914 Restoration (down about 4 posts) and you can see what it takes to restore a rusted 914. |
You are correct and I've been following his thread from the beginning. I have also re-read it a couple of times. I think the most impressive part of his approach is to build a jig to hold the chassis during the repair.
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If you have any question, happy to help ! It's not my job, metalwork is only my passion but if you need some informations, just ask ! Those 914s really rusts but they are so fun on the road!
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