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pdx6169 Samba Member
Joined: May 30, 2023 Posts: 60 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2024 8:46 pm Post subject: Clutch cable tension/throwout assembly |
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Hi all,
I'm preparing my bug for reinstallation of her rebuilt engine. I ended up replacing the entire throwout assembly (fork, bushings, clutch cable arm) because the old bearing was way off-center, the bushings were thrashed, and the arm was seized to the fork. I also replaced the clutch cable and Bowden tube.
When reinstalling the cable to the arm, I had to push the arm forward quite a bit to catch the threads with the wingnut. With the wingnut on, the arm is now pitched forward about 10-15 degrees or so from where it was sans cable, and the throwout fork now has about a pinky finger of clearance from the back of the bell housing, whereas it was against the bell housing without the cable. Is this normal or is my cable too short? The cable is the exact same length as the old one, but the new Bowden tube, cable arm, and fork may be a bit out of spec and causing issues.
A few pics for reference:
New arm without clutch cable:
Arm with clutch cable installed (is pitched forward):
Clearance of throwout fork from bell housing:
Thanks in advance for any insight! _________________ 1961 Type 1 Convertible
1969 Type 1 Sedan |
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bnam Samba Member
Joined: July 02, 2006 Posts: 3523 Location: El Dorado Hills CA/ Bangalore, India
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Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2024 8:57 pm Post subject: Re: Clutch cable tension/throwout assembly |
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I think it's ok. You will need to adjust it further once you install the engine and clutch - in order to get the appropriate ~20mm of play at the pedal. _________________ 1971 1302LS Convertible (RHD) owned since '74
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bsairhead Samba Member
Joined: October 08, 2008 Posts: 4559 Location: viroqua wi.
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Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2024 9:13 pm Post subject: Re: Clutch cable tension/throwout assembly |
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| Without the motor plugged in, no way of telling. |
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Cusser Samba Member

Joined: October 02, 2006 Posts: 33379 Location: Hot Arizona
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bsairhead Samba Member
Joined: October 08, 2008 Posts: 4559 Location: viroqua wi.
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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2024 8:45 am Post subject: Re: Clutch cable tension/throwout assembly |
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| You could put a straight edge across the bell housing and measure in to the throw out bearing. And measure the distance the clutch pack sits proud of the case, compare the measurements. |
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busman78 Samba Member

Joined: August 17, 2004 Posts: 4661 Location: Oklahoma City, OK
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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2024 10:28 am Post subject: Re: Clutch cable tension/throwout assembly |
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| I agree with Cusser, that Boden tube does not look right |
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pdx6169 Samba Member
Joined: May 30, 2023 Posts: 60 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2024 11:46 am Post subject: Re: Clutch cable tension/throwout assembly |
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| Cusser wrote: |
| Might be too much bow in your bowden tube. |
| busman78 wrote: |
| I agree with Cusser, that Boden tube does not look right |
Thx! There are two thick shims on the tube currently, carried over from the old one. I will remove these and see if that gives me enough thread to get the wingnut on without pitching the arm forward. I didn't check, but it's possible the new Bowden is a tad longer. _________________ 1961 Type 1 Convertible
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busman78 Samba Member

Joined: August 17, 2004 Posts: 4661 Location: Oklahoma City, OK
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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2024 1:19 pm Post subject: Re: Clutch cable tension/throwout assembly |
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| Use a string or visulize a straight line between the body and the trans bracket for the boden tube, when the bowden tube is installed there should be about 3/4" of bend in the tube, no more than an 1". |
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gt1953 Samba Member

Joined: May 08, 2002 Posts: 13958 Location: White Mountains Arizona
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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2024 3:10 pm Post subject: Re: Clutch cable tension/throwout assembly |
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The clips holdng the throw out bearing will fail as you need the other style.
here is a link with a photo
https://socalautoparts.com/product/throw-out-beari...gIX_vD_BwE _________________ Volkswagen: We tune what we drive.
Numbers Matching VW's are getting harder to find. Source out the most Stock vehicle and keep that way. You will be glad you did.
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Cusser Samba Member

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VW_Jimbo  Samba Member

Joined: May 22, 2016 Posts: 11402 Location: Huntington Beach, CA
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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2024 8:05 pm Post subject: Re: Clutch cable tension/throwout assembly |
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Seems like the wrong length clutch cable. The length varied through the years.
The T O bearing sits off center just a bit. _________________ Jimbo
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