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Pruneman99 Samba Member
Joined: February 22, 2012 Posts: 5013 Location: Oceanside
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Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2022 7:35 am Post subject: Re: Help with new distributor for stock 6-volt 1966 Beetle |
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Your distributor should be set at idle, with the vacuum advance disconnected and plugged at the carb side.
SVA distributors use vacuum to advance the carb. The signal will not be correct to check max advance without load. |
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EVfun Samba Member
Joined: April 01, 2012 Posts: 5475 Location: Seattle
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Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2022 7:59 am Post subject: Re: Help with new distributor for stock 6-volt 1966 Beetle |
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Wait a minute... You have a 111 905 205 M distributor? Are you sure that isn't a 113 905 205 M distributor? The first one (111 905 205 M) is a late 40 horse distributor designed to be used with a 28 PICT-1 carburetor. The second one (113 905 205 M) is a 1968 distributor for a 1500cc single port and would be a better match to a 30 PICT-1 carburetor. Timing advance may be quite delayed if you are using a 40 horse distributor with a later carburetor. That would negatively impact performance.
Stock for 1966 and 1967 Bugs would be the 113-905-205K distributor with a 30 PICT-1 carburetor. The details of the carb are slightly different between the 1300 ('66) and 1500 ('67). If yours has been bored out to a 1600 I would likely try to set up the carburetor and distributor to the 1967 specs, except 6 volt. Timing should be set at idle with the vacuum line disconnected and plugged. What it should be set to will be determined by what distributor you are using. _________________
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funkeefresh69 Samba Member
Joined: May 25, 2014 Posts: 23 Location: Hawaii
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Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2022 10:27 am Post subject: Re: Help with new distributor for stock 6-volt 1966 Beetle |
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Glenn wrote: |
It's a 205M and just about the easiest to take apart, clean and reassemble. |
Hey, Glenn I finally got around to taking the distributor off the engine. Turns out it is a Bosch 113905205K.
If I opt for a rebuilt, does it matter if it is M or K or will it operate more or less the same for my application? |
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Glenn Mr. 010
Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 76902 Location: Sneaking up behind you
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Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2022 10:30 am Post subject: Re: Help with new distributor for stock 6-volt 1966 Beetle |
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The only difference is the K uses 2 piece points and the M uses 1 piece. Otherwise they are basically the same. _________________ Glenn
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EVfun Samba Member
Joined: April 01, 2012 Posts: 5475 Location: Seattle
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Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2022 12:03 pm Post subject: Re: Help with new distributor for stock 6-volt 1966 Beetle |
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Glenn wrote: |
The only difference is the K uses 2 piece points and the M uses 1 piece. Otherwise they are basically the same. |
I thought K was the correct one for '66 and '67 Bugs. My understanding is that M has more vacuum advance and was designed to be timed at TDC, while the older K has a little less advance and designed to be timed at 7.5 degrees before TDC. _________________
Wildthings wrote: |
As a general rule, cheap parts are the most expensive parts you can buy. |
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Dangermouse Samba Member
Joined: November 23, 2005 Posts: 1266 Location: Beautiful New Zealand
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Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2022 3:09 pm Post subject: Re: Help with new distributor for stock 6-volt 1966 Beetle |
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funkeefresh69 wrote: |
Anyone have positive experience with a PerTronix? |
The general experience reported with Pertronix in a 6V system is that it's fine while running but causes significant hard starting problems as the electronic unit needs to see 5V to trigger a spark and the system voltage often falls below this while operating the starter motor.
Stick with points, they're all you need. _________________ Do not follow me, for I may not lead. Do not lead me, for I may not follow. Do not walk beside me either; actually just bugger off and stand over there will you. |
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funkeefresh69 Samba Member
Joined: May 25, 2014 Posts: 23 Location: Hawaii
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Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2022 12:19 am Post subject: Re: Help with new distributor for stock 6-volt 1966 Beetle |
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wdfifteen wrote: |
Bill at Sparkswerks does a good job on distributors. |
Thanks for help. In the end I abandoned the Pertronix solution and got a beautifully restored german distriubtor from Sparkworks (thanks wdfifteen ).
By the way, this thing looked brand new and is performing great! I'll try and post a photo.
Again, thanks to this great community for the quick and thoughtful responses |
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