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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2022 8:53 am    Post subject: Do you use your home efficiency? Reply with quote

It's a fact that our vehicles are used very inefficiently (2 ton 6 passenger trucks and SUVs that spend most of their life on the road virtually empty) but what about our homes?

We heat our homes in the winter and cool them in the summer but how much of that house gets used on a daily basis? I will start.

Our home is a very modest 1.5 story 1000 sq. ft. older farm house with 5 bedrooms, 2 baths, Kitchen/dining room, living room and family room. On a daily basis we only actually use 1 bedroom, 1 bathroom and the kitchen/dining room. If family comes (4 or 5 times a year?) it increases to another bedroom or two and the second bathroom. In actual fact for day to day living we could easily get by with a home half this size.

How about you?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2022 8:59 am    Post subject: Re: Home use efficiency Reply with quote

'58 brick ranch. 1,200 sq feet.

3br. One's a "study." One's a guest room.

Wife, me, 4 cats, 3 birds, and a demented old dog.

I win.

I'm converting the basement into the most awesome man cave ever and it's not taxed as heated space!!!! suckers.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2022 10:00 am    Post subject: Re: Home use efficiency Reply with quote

Interesting! We are not taxed on heated space just the footprint of the building. Our basement is finished and heated. It contains 1 bedroom, bathroom and family room. The second story of the house is not heated and contains 2 bedrooms under the peak of the roof. If we use them we put a temporary electric space heater in them just for the duration of the usage.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2022 10:08 am    Post subject: Re: Home use efficiency Reply with quote

How insulated is your house? What year was it built?

In GA in the 50s insulation was optional. Walls are just an airspace between the sheetrock and the brick. I blew insulation in the attic and swapped the windows to 2 pane glass. We replaced the 80% efficiency 20 yo furnace with a 95% efficiency. Both natural gas. I had guilt pains over not converting to a heat pump, but I want to be able to heat the house without power (no fireplace). The gas furnace, lights and fridge will run off a 2kW inverter generator in a pinch.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2022 10:13 am    Post subject: Re: Home use efficiency Reply with quote

We could "get by" with basic shelter. I guess the Tiny House movement is what immediately comes to mind.
But since you asked
I prefer our "NeverDone Ranch" along with the enjoyment we get from living here.
I try not to think about the inherent waste that comes with owning things.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2022 10:18 am    Post subject: Re: Home use efficiency Reply with quote

1400 sq ft Earthship, oriented 10 degrees east of true south, vertical glass,6" concrete floor.

Y'all lose this one

180,000 lbs of thermal mass
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2022 10:28 am    Post subject: Re: Home use efficiency Reply with quote

Pics please.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2022 12:19 pm    Post subject: Re: Home use efficiency Reply with quote

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How insulated is your house? What year was it built?

In GA in the 50s insulation was optional. Walls are just an airspace between the sheetrock and the brick. I blew insulation in the attic and swapped the windows to 2 pane glass. We replaced the 80% efficiency 20 yo furnace with a 95% efficiency. Both natural gas. I had guilt pains over not converting to a heat pump, but I want to be able to heat the house without power (no fireplace). The gas furnace, lights and fridge will run off a 2kW inverter generator in a pinch.

Built about 1945 with the state of the art wood shavings insulation and double pane glass. Heated concrete pad in the basement with hot water baseboard heating on the main floor. I have replaced about 1/2 of the shavings with fiberglass insulation and there is virtually no difference. The shavings do a pretty good job! The natural gas boiler is about 80% efficient. We have a wood stove in the basement and if we use it consistently it cuts out natural gas bill in half.

I too am fascinated by the tiny home movement! At this point in life though I still need space to pursue other hobbies and interests. Not ready yet to throw in the towel and just exist...

I guess to be honest I spend a lot of time in my garage/workshop, not so much in the house. I could easily live in a tiny house if I could keep my workshop!
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2022 1:22 pm    Post subject: Re: Home use efficiency Reply with quote

Used to live in Stratford Ont. Kinda miss winter.

Insulation up there isn't just nice to have.

Doesn't really get that cold here. Lowest has been about 15F (-9C). No comparison to up there.

Most of the time it's in 40s and 50s in the winter here. If it snows enough to cover a road in some part of the city, all the schools close. Then came icepocolypse in January 2014. Didn't make it home. Spent the night in a bar with no alcohol sales. shudder.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2022 2:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Home use efficiency Reply with quote

We have a 1972, 2800 square footer. Unfinished basement under the main house. The family room, laundry and garage are a slab. Baseboard hot water heat, but forced air a/c. The boiler is in the basement, so it’s warm. Garage is cold, been trying to figure out some easy heat for there. Our bedroom is over the garage and I can see where they spacaled over holes for blown in insulation. It all seems to help. The fire place has a pellet stove insert, I haven’t used it yet. Been in the house just over 2 years.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2022 2:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Home use efficiency Reply with quote

We have a 1200 sq foot 'Chalet' steep ass roof (We built our self & insulated the shit out of) ,a couple loft's one is Open,you know a 'Cabin' Laughing one bath , two bedroom ,Sunroom takes up most of the south side of the house,, half basement other 1/2 Root Cellar & Sauna,,Wood furriness ,coil in stove heats the floors with pex tubing, Wood CookStove heats the house up to 80*-90* when I'm Baking Laughing it also heats all our Hot water We have NO Gas Bill and we lowerd out Electric bill with Solar Panels and Battery bank.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2022 3:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Home use efficiency Reply with quote

madmike wrote:
We have a 1200 sq foot 'Chalet' steep ass roof (We built our self & insulated the shit out of) ,a couple loft's one is Open,you know a 'Cabin' Laughing one bath , two bedroom ,Sunroom takes up most of the south side of the house,, half basement other 1/2 Root Cellar & Sauna,,Wood furriness ,coil in stove heats the floors with pex tubing, Wood CookStove heats the house up to 80*-90* when I'm Baking Laughing it also heats all our Hot water We have NO Gas Bill and we lowerd out Electric bill with Solar Panels and Battery bank.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2022 3:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Home use efficiency Reply with quote

Dude, Turn off the T.V.
We've been doing this for 35 years Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2022 4:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Home use efficiency Reply with quote

We have a 2000 sq. ft. cape cod style log home on approximately 2 acres. There are 4 of us so we basically need most of the space. I converted the great room to extra living space a few years ago by making it 2 levels. We have lived here for 23 years and for about the first 10 years it felt like we were on vacation. Log homes look great but are a maintenance headache. Our plans are to cover the logs with vertical steel siding so the endless caulking and painting will stop. I replaced a small rotten log section a couple of years ago and don't want to deal with that either. My wife and I are both in our mid to late 60s and don't want to spend our retirement years dealing with constant maintenance.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2022 4:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Home use efficiency Reply with quote

We had the solar salesman sitting at our dining room table, twice last month. Way too much money. Especially if you want a battery to have power during outages. If I was younger, maybe.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2022 5:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Home use efficiency Reply with quote

All good to share but we have drifted a bit off topic. The original intent was to see how much of our houses we actually USE and how much is dead space. I would say about 45 to 50% of ours is dead space for the vast majority of the year.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2022 5:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Home use efficiency Reply with quote

4 bedroom cape cod built in 1954. Not sure of the total square footage, but we use all but the 2 bedrooms and bath on the 2nd floor on a daily basis.

Basement is 1/2 finished with a big couch and 62" TV. Other side is mechanicals, laundry, storage and work shop.

Main floor is bedroom, home office, and living space.

Could do with less space but it would cost more to move.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2022 5:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Home use efficiency Reply with quote

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Our home is a very modest 1.5 story 1000 sq. ft. older farm house with 5 bedrooms, 2 baths, Kitchen/dining room, living room and family room.


This can't be correct? 1,000 sq ft?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2022 6:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Home use efficiency Reply with quote

House size is the footprint? Instead of heated floor space.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2022 6:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Home use efficiency Reply with quote

180,000 Sq ft

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