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1970PAKombi Samba Member
Joined: July 10, 2019 Posts: 264 Location: Denver, PA
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2022 1:28 pm Post subject: Penalized Selling Stuff 'Cheap' or Priced to Move? |
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I want to be clear that this isn't a rant or anything, it's a legitimate question. Please don't come into this thread and start bashing people directly. But I wanted to ask the question of whether some of you actually feel penalized for selling stuff to move?
Again, not directed at anyone specifically - but recently I've been trying to unload stuff from picks to off-set gas, trailer rental, etc. It's typically priced at 50-60% of similar items because I don't want to store it and I want to recover my investment.
But man, the offers that come through the door and/or the crazy trades make me almost want to increase the price it higher to avoid the Looney Tunes!
Unique trades include: animals, stolen tools, payment plan (for a $500 item), etc. |
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Glenn Mr. 010
Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 76904 Location: Sneaking up behind you
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2022 1:34 pm Post subject: Re: Penalized Selling Stuff 'Cheap' or Priced to Move? |
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1970PAKombi wrote: |
But man, the offers that come through the door and/or the crazy trades make me almost want to increase the price it higher to avoid the Looney Tunes! |
Increase the price. _________________ Glenn
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vwracerdave Samba Member
Joined: November 11, 2004 Posts: 15303 Location: Deep in the 405
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2022 2:11 pm Post subject: Re: Penalized Selling Stuff 'Cheap' or Priced to Move? |
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The real issue is you are too scared to let it go. Hoarding is a mental illness.
If your selling stuff and the buyer makes a ridicules offer simply say No Thanks and move on. _________________ 2017 Street Comp Champion - Thunder Valley Raceway Park - Noble, OK
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1970PAKombi Samba Member
Joined: July 10, 2019 Posts: 264 Location: Denver, PA
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2022 4:30 pm Post subject: Re: Penalized Selling Stuff 'Cheap' or Priced to Move? |
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vwracerdave wrote: |
The real issue is you are too scared to let it go. Hoarding is a mental illness.
If your selling stuff and the buyer makes a ridicules offer simply say No Thanks and move on. |
No, no hoarding here. I was asking if it's better to adjust the price higher to avoid the nonsense? |
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vwinnovator Samba Member
Joined: July 11, 2005 Posts: 1555 Location: Still doing it in the back of your VW
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Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2022 6:39 am Post subject: Re: Penalized Selling Stuff 'Cheap' or Priced to Move? |
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I get stupid offers from people all the time no matter what the price.
"can you sell me one seat back from your matched set of seats"
"I just want to buy the steering column out of your turnkey car"
Parts I don't really care for I tend to ask a price of fair value.
Basically..If you had to make/build from scratch could you build it for what I'm asking??
Like a $50 fender, or a $25 steering wheel...Can you make it for that???
If the offers are stupid just tell them "I'm sure someone else has what your looking for for that kind of deal, but not me..good luck" |
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slayer61 Samba Member
Joined: June 01, 2021 Posts: 1018 Location: CA
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Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2022 7:51 am Post subject: Re: Penalized Selling Stuff 'Cheap' or Priced to Move? |
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Maybe I look at it differently. If I'm not using something, it goes cheap. Be gone.
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EverettB Administrator
Joined: April 11, 2000 Posts: 69809 Location: Phoenix Metro
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Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2022 8:43 am Post subject: Re: Penalized Selling Stuff 'Cheap' or Priced to Move? |
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vwinnovator wrote: |
I get stupid offers from people all the time no matter what the price.
"can you sell me one seat back from your matched set of seats"
"I just want to buy the steering column out of your turnkey car" |
I just wanted to let you know this is fairly common.
Sometimes I look at the emails people get to cars for sale here that I like and this happens A LOT.
Along with all the motorcycle/boat/land trades from a few people that will email tons of sellers.
There have definitely been some people that have made what I thought were weird trades here so maybe it works sometimes. _________________ How to Post Photos
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Glenn Mr. 010
Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 76904 Location: Sneaking up behind you
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Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2022 9:25 am Post subject: Re: Penalized Selling Stuff 'Cheap' or Priced to Move? |
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Yesterday i listed an accessory and it sold in 30 minutes. Was going g to as $100 but figured that it would go faster @ $75... and it did.
And I'm ok with that. _________________ Glenn
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Abscate Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2014 Posts: 22641 Location: NYC/Upstate/ROW
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Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2022 10:53 am Post subject: Re: Penalized Selling Stuff 'Cheap' or Priced to Move? |
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If you don’t like interacting with people don’t sell stuff. I usually find someone who needs a cool thing I find and give it away rather than clutter life with emails/trades/skateboards and it pays forward
I think I sold a Bus Beam here, that was it. I delivered it _________________ .ssS! |
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modok Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2009 Posts: 26785 Location: Colorado Springs
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Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2022 3:05 am Post subject: Re: Penalized Selling Stuff 'Cheap' or Priced to Move? |
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I know what your saying.
Having the lowest price is good idea, but going TOO low invites trouble.
If it won't sell then lowering the price past reason does not always help, you best try another time or try somewhere else or just give it away.
I do NOT believe in throwing stuff away if you can't get a "fair price", but I can see how some would come to believe that.
It may depend a lot on what you are selling too.
Very different kinds of markets with very "different" people |
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typ914 Samba Member
Joined: October 19, 2012 Posts: 230 Location: Atlanta, Ga
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Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2022 3:36 am Post subject: Re: Penalized Selling Stuff 'Cheap' or Priced to Move? |
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The few times I have listed things I have looked at similar ads and priced mine lower. Sometimes a lot sometimes a little. I have a few people complain or ask stupid questions. In Which case I link them to an ad of the same thing but a much higher price and just tell them to buy that one. |
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Dusty1 Samba Member
Joined: April 16, 2004 Posts: 1416
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Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2022 9:10 am Post subject: Re: Penalized Selling Stuff 'Cheap' or Priced to Move? |
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It used to be retailers sold retail and everyone else bought from them.
Many retailers relied on a conventional supply chain. The had to pre- internet. It was difficult to catalog parts in a situation where each part came from an amateur vendor.
The internet changed everything. Yeah, it's been around for decades. Amateur retailers are still learning.
Amateur retailers tend to believe if they list something on The Magic Internet a buyer will show up almost instantly and pay retail. The same belief exists in actual reality. Sellers believe buyers will show up if they have a garage sale on a dead end road a hundred miles from nowhere.
Same sellers will produce a screen shot from eBay, Amazon or a similar site exhibiting an inflated asking price. They'll stick to their "retail" price although their situation is far from retail.
Same sellers charge for listing fees, PayPal fees... that's all part of doing business. Roll it into the price instead of sticking it to me after the sale.
Shipping has become ridiculously expensive. We're going to have to come up with creative shipping solutions if we're going to rely on e- business. For example rather than relying on FedEx or UPS, what if there was a truck with a 53' box that went coast to coast a couple times a year? Then my cores could find their way to West Coast rebuilders. Rebuilt parts would boomerang back. We would rely less on an offshore supply chain.
Every time a VW gets shipped coast to coast parts could ride with it.
Lowballers:
IMO lowballers should feed on the bottom with the carp, the crabs and the shellfish. Never mind that I like a bargain as much as anyone. I have a fairly strict protocol, however.
I believe it's rude to offer less than 2/3 of asking price and it's certainly rude to attempt to buy pristine parts off someone's running vehicle. Mind you I'm still steaming at bus people who used to steal parts off my buses when I wasn't around. First someone stole all the VW logos. Another day someone stole all the wipers. Hey, I'll hook you up with wipers if you need them. There is no need to steal all the wipers off all my buses.
It's certainly rude to sell broken or defective parts as pristine or NOS. I can link to Samba ads presenting useless parts as usable and worse, charging as if they're usable. Believe me, I have a Third World attitude towards junk. If I can't rebuild it no one can.
If a part or vehicle is overpriced don't expect to hear from me. I don't like to play games and I especially don't enjoy that game.
Of course rules are made to be broken. If your price is way high I may offer a little less than my usual protocol. Bear in mind I've been at this for longer than many if not most. I operate within a reasonable price range. I'm pretty good at arbitrage.
I find that overpriced parts or vehicles are a continuing education in dealing with difficult people.
Anyone who says, "Don't waste my time!"
Can be sure I won't.
Focusing on lowballers:
The proliferation of amateur retailers makes for a proliferation of lowballers. Lowballers like to buy rare parts for chump change and then flip them for retail. Hassle is it's work. Rather than patiently waiting for the right deal or following protocol lowballers prefer to push.
It's like any other relationship. You can politely wait for the right partner and woo them with charm and wit or you can rudely proposition potential partners and succeed once in a while due to the Law of Averages.
Would be vendors:
Patience is a virtue! At this time of year it's a good idea to wait for the summer swap meets if you want to sell parts. Sweat equity and skin in the game pays dividends.
I've always promoted camaraderie at swap meets. I may help you unload if I get there early enough. I try to provide entertainment during the day. I'll help you load out if you'll let me. I figure I had a good day if I'm the last one to load up and leave.
So, OP:
Hang on to those parts for now and swap meet 'em later. Transform what can be an annoying process into a fun vacation.
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Abscate Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2014 Posts: 22641 Location: NYC/Upstate/ROW
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Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2022 12:59 pm Post subject: Re: Penalized Selling Stuff 'Cheap' or Priced to Move? |
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I always offer a payment plan
1 you make payment
2 I plan on how I’ll spend your cash
You are welcome _________________ .ssS! |
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cdennisg Samba Member
Joined: November 02, 2004 Posts: 20271 Location: Sandpoint, ID
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Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2022 3:45 pm Post subject: Re: Penalized Selling Stuff 'Cheap' or Priced to Move? |
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Abscate wrote: |
I always offer a payment plan
1 you make payment
2 I plan on how I’ll spend your cash
You are welcome |
I like that.
All of this reminds me of the free lawnmower by the corner. If you put a sign on it that says "free" it will sit there forever. If you change that sign to "for sale, fifty bucks" and chain it to the post, it will be stolen that night. Either way, you get rid of the lawn mower. _________________ nothing |
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Manfred58sc Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2009 Posts: 3382
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Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2022 5:15 pm Post subject: Re: Penalized Selling Stuff 'Cheap' or Priced to Move? |
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Nobody goes to cheap doctor. We value what we pay for. Buying and selling is a fairly sophisticated endeavor, not for everyone ( don't like doing it? go get a job and have someone else tell you what to do ). _________________ Fat chick owner/operator |
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1970PAKombi Samba Member
Joined: July 10, 2019 Posts: 264 Location: Denver, PA
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:07 pm Post subject: Re: Penalized Selling Stuff 'Cheap' or Priced to Move? |
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Manfred58sc wrote: |
Nobody goes to cheap doctor. We value what we pay for. Buying and selling is a fairly sophisticated endeavor, not for everyone ( don't like doing it? go get a job and have someone else tell you what to do ). |
I hear you |
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Glenn Mr. 010
Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 76904 Location: Sneaking up behind you
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:23 pm Post subject: Re: Penalized Selling Stuff 'Cheap' or Priced to Move? |
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Manfred58sc wrote: |
Nobody goes to cheap doctor. We value what we pay for. |
Going to an expensive doctor is no guarantee of getting the best treatment. _________________ Glenn
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Joe 20 Samba Member
Joined: August 27, 2005 Posts: 655 Location: Ohio
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2022 8:31 pm Post subject: Re: Penalized Selling Stuff 'Cheap' or Priced to Move? |
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AHH you make a funny....a cheap doctor _________________ "Someday the world is gonna be populated by nothing but Volkswagens'" Corporal Klairvoy |
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Abscate Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2014 Posts: 22641 Location: NYC/Upstate/ROW
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Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2022 1:59 am Post subject: Re: Penalized Selling Stuff 'Cheap' or Priced to Move? |
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cdennisg wrote: |
Abscate wrote: |
I always offer a payment plan
1 you make payment
2 I plan on how I’ll spend your cash
You are welcome |
I like that.
All of this reminds me of the free lawnmower by the corner. If you put a sign on it that says "free" it will sit there forever. If you change that sign to "for sale, fifty bucks" and chain it to the post, it will be stolen that night. Either way, you get rid of the lawn mower. |
...and deduct $500 loss from your taxes, using the Wells Fargo guide _________________ .ssS! |
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Stripped66 Samba Member
Joined: May 31, 2005 Posts: 3470 Location: Charleston, SC
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Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2022 5:11 am Post subject: Re: Penalized Selling Stuff 'Cheap' or Priced to Move? |
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Glenn wrote: |
Manfred58sc wrote: |
Nobody goes to cheap doctor. We value what we pay for. |
Going to an expensive doctor is no guarantee of getting the best treatment. |
"You can't pay somebody enough to care" is no exception in medicine. _________________
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