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doc hopper
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 Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2023 6:34 am Post subject: Can't get oil |
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I live in So Cal, so this may be peculiar to my area. For the last year or so, I've been doing my oil changes by dipping into the garage stockpile of one quart containers of standard 30 wt. Penzoil, to be precise. I have run out, so I went to my local Auto Zone to buy some oil. About 80 percent of their stock was synthetic, and the rest was sold in bulk (no regular 30 weight). On to Pep Boys. Same thing. I hit up every auto parts store in my area. Same problem.
So I turned to Amazon. I ordered a 6 quart case of Penzoil. A few days later I got a notice that the oil was "undeliverable" and had been returned to the seller.
Is this a trend now? Anyone else having problems getting standard 30 wt oil in one quart containers?
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hobthebob
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| Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2023 6:40 am Post subject: Re: Can't get oil |
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| I've been ordering 40w VR1, since it has extra zinc already added. I ordered mine from walmart recently, and it arrived next day. I am pretty sure VR1 is also available in 30w. |
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Glenn 
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| Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2023 7:04 am Post subject: Re: Can't get oil |
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You should of stopped using single weight oil, the current multi weight are better.
Depending on the condition of your engine you should use a 10-W30, 10-W40 or even a 20-W50 if you have a worn engine.
As to Amazon not shipping, it's a Prop65 issue.
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jack1448
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| Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2023 7:24 am Post subject: Re: Can't get oil |
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| You might want to check your local small engine shop - depending on the season they should have 10W30 or 10W40 oil with the higher zinc levels that our engines need. |
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Nacho_74
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| Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2023 7:27 am Post subject: Re: Can't get oil |
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| hobthebob wrote: |
| I've been ordering 40w VR1, since it has extra zinc already added. I ordered mine from walmart recently, and it arrived next day. I am pretty sure VR1 is also available in 30w. |
Valvoline VR1 is what I use. Most VW shops locally have it in stock and Autozone . Autozone carries 50w but you can ask for 30w and they will have it delivered from their warehouse same day or within a day to the store. |
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| Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2023 8:25 am Post subject: Re: Can't get oil |
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see if you can find some 'Shell Rotella Conventional Heavy Duty Motor Oil 30W 1 Gallon - T30-1'
as per Glenn's wishes...that's all I gotta say about that 
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Bonesberg55
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| Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2023 10:09 am Post subject: Re: Can't get oil |
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| Just exactly what is a synthetic blend? Farm & Fleet was selling that but they went back to 100% oil. They have straight 30W but all their locations are in the midwest. I think you can mail order. |
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Cusser
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| Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2023 12:25 pm Post subject: Re: Can't get oil |
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| Bonesberg55 wrote: |
| Just exactly what is a synthetic blend? |
Synthetic blend is a mixture of synthetic oil and conventional oil; what the percentage can be is smoke and mirrors.
And all brake fluid, ATF, etc. is synthetic, just the word thrown on the label for marketing. Once one supplier started doing that, the others followed.
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Pruneman99
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| Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2023 1:03 pm Post subject: Re: Can't get oil |
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| Glenn wrote: |
As to Amazon not shipping, it's a Prop65 issue.
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I don't think that is true, or at least it's sporadically enforced.
I also live in SoCal, and have a hard time getting the oil I want.
I can get VR1, but ONLY in 20/50. The local parts places said that was all that was available.
I tried ordering VR1 in a different weight, same Amazon cancelation. "Cannot be delivered to CA" notification.
Same thing with one brand of break in oil. Ordered a different brand, delivered no problem.
Briggs and Stratton branded oil (30w) was also no problem.
I don't understand where the line is, or how it's being enforced. Nobody can give me a straight answer.
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Pruneman99
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| Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2023 1:05 pm Post subject: Re: Can't get oil |
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| hobthebob wrote: |
| I've been ordering 40w VR1, since it has extra zinc already added. I ordered mine from walmart recently, and it arrived next day. I am pretty sure VR1 is also available in 30w. |
Valvoline VR1 is what I use. Most VW shops locally have it in stock and Autozone . Autozone carries 50w but you can ask for 30w and they will have it delivered from their warehouse same day or within a day to the store. |
I was told not available for order at my local Autozone.  |
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nreslifer
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| Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2023 1:50 pm Post subject: Re: Can't get oil |
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| Just picked up 4 quarts 30w non detergent oil at my local Napa |
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KTPhil
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| Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2023 2:17 pm Post subject: Re: Can't get oil |
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I am in SoCal and have the same problem. FLAPS, even NAPA, have had a hard time getting the 30wt VR1 my engine builder told me to use. So I buy a couple of cases (6qt, not 12 or 24 like a "case" used to be, probably a "ban high capacity magazine" type idea ). It's supposedly a "shipping to California" issue, or so they say. One blamed the COVID shipping issues and the port of LA overcrowding. Like you said, it's hard to get a straight answer, much less solve the problem.
Amazon lists it at $27 per quart. But it won't ship to SoCal.
It's about time for me to go on a quest for more oil in the next couple of months. I am not looking forward to it.
I add some cam additive to up the zinc, but just getting VR1 mono-grade is getting hard. |
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67rustavenger
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| Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2023 2:38 pm Post subject: Re: Can't get oil |
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| KTPhil wrote: |
I am in SoCal and have the same problem. FLAPS, even NAPA, have had a hard time getting the 30wt VR1 my engine builder told me to use. So I buy a couple of cases (6qt, not 12 or 24 like a "case" used to be, probably a "ban high capacity magazine" type idea ). It's supposedly a "shipping to California" issue, or so they say. One blamed the COVID shipping issues and the port of LA overcrowding. Like you said, it's hard to get a straight answer, much less solve the problem.
Amazon lists it at $27 per quart. But it won't ship to SoCal.
It's about time for me to go on a quest for more oil in the next couple of months. I am not looking forward to it.
I add some cam additive to up the zinc, but just getting VR1 mono-grade is getting hard. |
Didja ask the Napa parts counter guys? Yea I know I'm Or.
My local Napa carries 30wt, VR1. The last time I was buying it. It wasn't on the shelf. Asked the counter guy if they still stocked it, he brought out a 6qt. case from behind the counter. 
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Pruneman99
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| Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2023 2:49 pm Post subject: Re: Can't get oil |
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I'm pretty sure it's just California thing. The rest of the county seems like they have choices that are not available to us, or difficult to source. It doesn't make sense.
Autozone stocks VR1 20/50 on the shelf, but can't order other weights?
Amazon can't ship VR1, or Lucas break in oil. They have no problem sending STP break in oil, or lawnmower straight weight (or any other synthetic oil I've ordered).
I'll try Oriley next time, just to see what they say. Idk if there is a NAPA around here anywhere. |
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67rustavenger
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| Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2023 3:08 pm Post subject: Re: Can't get oil |
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| Pruneman99 wrote: |
I'm pretty sure it's just California thing. The rest of the county seems like they have choices that are not available to us, or difficult to source. It doesn't make sense.
Autozone stocks VR1 20/50 on the shelf, but can't order other weights?
Amazon can't ship VR1, or Lucas break in oil. They have no problem sending STP break in oil, or lawnmower straight weight (or any other synthetic oil I've ordered).
I'll try Oriley next time, just to see what they say. Idk if there is a NAPA around here anywhere. |
Didja look here?
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2954 Oceanside Blvd, Oceanside, CA 92054
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Pruneman99
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| Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2023 3:12 pm Post subject: Re: Can't get oil |
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Actually I moved over by Temecula. But I do know exactly where that one is. I've been there multiple times when I lived on Camp Pen.
I'm sure I can Google one over here, I've just not needed to I guess. |
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67rustavenger
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| Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2023 3:35 pm Post subject: Re: Can't get oil |
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| Pruneman99 wrote: |
Actually I moved over by Temecula. But I do know exactly where that one is. I've been there multiple times when I lived on Camp Pen.
I'm sure I can Google one over here, I've just not needed to I guess. |
Good lord, Temecula brings back memories.
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Bonesberg55
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| Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2023 4:43 pm Post subject: Re: Can't get oil |
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| Was that at Milhous' old place? |
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Zundfolge1432
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| Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2023 5:10 pm Post subject: Re: Can't get oil |
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| Glenn wrote: |
You should of stopped using single weight oil, the current multi weight are better.
Depending on the condition of your engine you should use a 10-W30, 10-W40 or even a 20-W50 if you have a worn engine.
As to Amazon not shipping, it's a Prop65 issue.
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Good luck with that Glenn😀 we have contingent around here that reads and follows lubrication specs written 50 plus years ago. It defies reason and logic as if technology has failed to make any progress |
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