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scottyrocks Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2023 8:31 am Post subject: Re: if you think you are smarter than the previous generation.. |
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Bonesberg55 wrote: |
There are no levels of truth. Something is either true or its false. Its like saying "To be perfectly honest with you". You're either honest or you're not. As an example: "JFK was assassinated by John Wilkes Booth". Is that true or false? |
Many not too much younger than me will not know that. _________________ “If you care for a thing long enough, it takes on a life of its own, doesn't it? Mending old things, preserving them, looking after them – on some level there's no rational grounds for it.”
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mukluk Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2023 9:00 am Post subject: Re: if you think you are smarter than the previous generation.. |
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Bonesberg55 wrote: |
There are no levels of truth. Something is either true or its false. Its like saying "To be perfectly honest with you". You're either honest or you're not. As an example: "JFK was assassinated by John Wilkes Booth". Is that true or false? |
Truth and honesty are two different things. You can say things that are completely true but in a dishonest way; telling only half of the truth you know doesn't make the things said untrue, but it is dishonest since you've left out other true information that can make the overall picture skewed. Truth is fact, whereas honesty is the intent or how you use the truth.
eg: "Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?" _________________ 1960 Ragtop w/Semaphores "Inga" |
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oprn Samba Member
Joined: November 13, 2016 Posts: 12706 Location: Western Canada
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Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2023 9:19 am Post subject: Re: if you think you are smarter than the previous generation.. |
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Truth withheld can be very dishonest indeed! _________________ We had the stone age, the bronze age, the industrial age and now we are in the age of mass deception and mind control for corporate profit. (The mass media age) |
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Mickey bitsko Samba Member
Joined: June 13, 2019 Posts: 511 Location: New Mexifornia
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Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2023 9:24 am Post subject: Re: if you think you are smarter than the previous generation.. |
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Imo there are many levels of truth in any topic/ happening, for instance, during a visit to Dallas jfk was assassinated riding in a convertible limousine next to his wife..
And was assassinated by John Wilks Booth on his birthday.
Some of this is true. |
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ALLWAGONS Samba Member
Joined: June 03, 2000 Posts: 4186 Location: Pasadena CA/DTLA soon China
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Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2023 12:05 pm Post subject: Re: if you think you are smarter than the previous generation.. |
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But why not just say "THE TRUTH" why does everyone leave something out? _________________ I'd be UNSTOPPABLE if not for Law Enforcement and PHYSICS.
I recycle old cars and parts, other than when I rot, that's as Green as I am going to get.
Thanks to my Tesla driving neighbors, I feel more relaxed driving my SUBURBAN and old VW's.
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jinx758 Samba Member
Joined: October 04, 2014 Posts: 689 Location: Texas
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Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2023 1:46 pm Post subject: Re: if you think you are smarter than the previous generation.. |
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Truth is "black or white", no gray area.
As a kid we were sat in a long line. The first person was told "meet me at the pool before 3pm". When it got to the end it was " the neighbors painted their fence brown". Lol
Maybe that has more to do with comprehension.
ALL forms of media are biased.
They omit certain details to focus on a point or incur sensationalism. They ARE NOT reporting truths.
" Those that believe the media are misinformed, those that don't follow the media are uninformed. " Will Rogers
(That's close, I think.)
Between Tick-Tock, Wikipedia, Red-It, etc it's surprising newer gens get any form of semi factual info.
Many moons ago I read a biography of Hitler. It wasn't about his psycho genocidal tendencies but a story like account of a peasant farm boy rising to become the leader of a nation.
It was very entertaining.
All the best ... stay safe
jinx _________________ " It's not valuable unless you learn something from an experience. " Henry Ford
It's not unlike the same difference
You can't push a rope
VALVES (cold)
POINTS
TIMING
CARB (fully warmed engine)
SCRAPE ALL GROUNDS
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Mickey bitsko Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2023 3:45 pm Post subject: Re: if you think you are smarter than the previous generation.. |
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The point of my comment was, AI technology is in our lives more and more daily, us old farts that have ,more or less common sense and deductive reasoning can tell bs when hear or see it, but the upcoming generations are doomed if they don't find a way to discern fact from fiction. |
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Cusser Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2023 7:07 pm Post subject: Re: if you think you are smarter than the previous generation.. |
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Bonesberg55 wrote: |
You're either honest or you're not. As an example: "JFK was assassinated by John Wilkes Booth". Is that true or false? |
Mickey bitsko wrote: |
Imo there are many levels of truth in any topic/ happening, for instance, during a visit to Dallas jfk was assassinated riding in a convertible limousine next to his wife. |
Yep, 125-year-old John Wilkes Booth shot JFK in Dallas. I think Geraldo covered the story. _________________ 1970 VW (owned since 1972) and 1971 VW Convertible (owned since 1976), second owner of each. The '71 now has the 1835 engine, swapped from the '70. Second owner of each. 1988 Mazda B2200 truck, 1998 Frontier, 2014 Yukon, 2004 Frontier King Cab. All manual transmission except for the Yukon. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335294 http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335297 |
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Mickey bitsko Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2023 7:30 pm Post subject: Re: if you think you are smarter than the previous generation.. |
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Is that the truth, I'll look it up on wikipedia/Wikimedia |
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outcaststudios Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2023 6:50 am Post subject: Re: if you think you are smarter than the previous generation.. |
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Mickey bitsko wrote: |
The point of my comment was, AI technology is in our lives more and more daily, us old farts that have ,more or less common sense and deductive reasoning can tell bs when hear or see it, but the upcoming generations are doomed if they don't find a way to discern fact from fiction. |
sorry but i have to point out how absolutely wrong this is. all humans are gullible and incapable of discerning logic. regardless of their generational affiliation. id argue that younger generations are more likely to smell BS online than most boomers are. there is no such thing as 'truth' since it is an abstract concept. but if i take a step off a ten story building i will die, that is not an opinion. its also not 'truth'. waht is funny to one person is not to another. is it still 'funny'? _________________ '88Doka JX td
'69 westy
(rip)couple bugs
(rip)three type III"s
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a bunch of french stuff,and 9 motorcycles.
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Bonesberg55 Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2023 7:26 am Post subject: Re: if you think you are smarter than the previous generation.. |
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Misspelled words are funny! Most people call them typos. They're not! |
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finster Samba Member
Joined: May 26, 2012 Posts: 7935 Location: north o' the border
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Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2023 9:53 am Post subject: Re: if you think you are smarter than the previous generation.. |
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according to the book I'm currently reading - to be a machine by mark o'connell - the 'singularity' event is not far away, 2045 is a recent estimate but it may be sooner. this is when artificial intelligence becomes smarter than us, from there the next step will be machines acting beyond our comprehension...a cheery thought _________________ "we're here on Earth to fart around" kurt vonnegut
nothing lasts, nothing is finished, and nothing is perfect... |
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Bonesberg55 Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2023 10:07 am Post subject: Re: if you think you are smarter than the previous generation.. |
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I think most of Washington D.C. is already there! Their intelligence is about as fake as there is. |
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scottyrocks Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2023 10:42 am Post subject: Re: if you think you are smarter than the previous generation.. |
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finster wrote: |
according to the book I'm currently reading - to be a machine by mark o'connell - the 'singularity' event is not far away, 2045 is a recent estimate but it may be sooner. this is when artificial intelligence becomes smarter than us, from there the next step will be machines acting beyond our comprehension...a cheery thought |
'The Terminator' was not that far off. _________________ “If you care for a thing long enough, it takes on a life of its own, doesn't it? Mending old things, preserving them, looking after them – on some level there's no rational grounds for it.”
– D. Tartt, 'The Goldfinch' |
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ALLWAGONS Samba Member
Joined: June 03, 2000 Posts: 4186 Location: Pasadena CA/DTLA soon China
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Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2023 11:25 am Post subject: Re: if you think you are smarter than the previous generation.. |
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How do you measure intelligence? By the guy who is a Valedictorian because he memorized every single answer to a test or by the simple guy who finds alternate solutions to his problem by analyzing the cause and effect of his actions? _________________ I'd be UNSTOPPABLE if not for Law Enforcement and PHYSICS.
I recycle old cars and parts, other than when I rot, that's as Green as I am going to get.
Thanks to my Tesla driving neighbors, I feel more relaxed driving my SUBURBAN and old VW's.
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outcaststudios Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2023 11:52 am Post subject: Re: if you think you are smarter than the previous generation.. |
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yes exactly _________________ '88Doka JX td
'69 westy
(rip)couple bugs
(rip)three type III"s
(rip) '81 vanagon
a bunch of french stuff,and 9 motorcycles.
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outcaststudios Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2023 12:00 pm Post subject: Re: if you think you are smarter than the previous generation.. |
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Bonesberg55 wrote: |
Misspelled words are funny! Most people call them typos. They're not! |
ad hominem logic is a fallacy, but most people pretend its them being correct. _________________ '88Doka JX td
'69 westy
(rip)couple bugs
(rip)three type III"s
(rip) '81 vanagon
a bunch of french stuff,and 9 motorcycles.
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=2573791 |
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Cusser Samba Member
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Jon Schmid Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2023 12:50 pm Post subject: Re: if you think you are smarter than the previous generation.. |
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Bonesberg55 wrote: |
Misspelled words are funny! Most people call them typos. They're not! |
To Mark Tucker, misspelled words are a full time job. |
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Mickey bitsko Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2023 1:53 pm Post subject: Re: if you think you are smarter than the previous generation.. |
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Anyone remember 1973 Westwworld starring Yul Brenner , great movie .
It fits perfect in today's world. |
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