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PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2023 8:31 am    Post subject: Re: if you think you are smarter than the previous generation.. Reply with quote

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There are no levels of truth. Something is either true or its false. Its like saying "To be perfectly honest with you". You're either honest or you're not. As an example: "JFK was assassinated by John Wilkes Booth". Is that true or false?


Many not too much younger than me will not know that.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2023 9:00 am    Post subject: Re: if you think you are smarter than the previous generation.. Reply with quote

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There are no levels of truth. Something is either true or its false. Its like saying "To be perfectly honest with you". You're either honest or you're not. As an example: "JFK was assassinated by John Wilkes Booth". Is that true or false?

Truth and honesty are two different things. You can say things that are completely true but in a dishonest way; telling only half of the truth you know doesn't make the things said untrue, but it is dishonest since you've left out other true information that can make the overall picture skewed. Truth is fact, whereas honesty is the intent or how you use the truth.

eg: "Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?"
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2023 9:19 am    Post subject: Re: if you think you are smarter than the previous generation.. Reply with quote

Truth withheld can be very dishonest indeed!
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2023 9:24 am    Post subject: Re: if you think you are smarter than the previous generation.. Reply with quote

Imo there are many levels of truth in any topic/ happening, for instance, during a visit to Dallas jfk was assassinated riding in a convertible limousine next to his wife..
And was assassinated by John Wilks Booth on his birthday.
Some of this is true.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2023 12:05 pm    Post subject: Re: if you think you are smarter than the previous generation.. Reply with quote

But why not just say "THE TRUTH" why does everyone leave something out?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2023 1:46 pm    Post subject: Re: if you think you are smarter than the previous generation.. Reply with quote

Truth is "black or white", no gray area.

As a kid we were sat in a long line. The first person was told "meet me at the pool before 3pm". When it got to the end it was " the neighbors painted their fence brown". Lol
Maybe that has more to do with comprehension.

ALL forms of media are biased.

They omit certain details to focus on a point or incur sensationalism. They ARE NOT reporting truths.

" Those that believe the media are misinformed, those that don't follow the media are uninformed. " Will Rogers
(That's close, I think.)

Between Tick-Tock, Wikipedia, Red-It, etc it's surprising newer gens get any form of semi factual info.

Many moons ago I read a biography of Hitler. It wasn't about his psycho genocidal tendencies but a story like account of a peasant farm boy rising to become the leader of a nation.
It was very entertaining.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2023 3:45 pm    Post subject: Re: if you think you are smarter than the previous generation.. Reply with quote

The point of my comment was, AI technology is in our lives more and more daily, us old farts that have ,more or less common sense and deductive reasoning can tell bs when hear or see it, but the upcoming generations are doomed if they don't find a way to discern fact from fiction.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2023 7:07 pm    Post subject: Re: if you think you are smarter than the previous generation.. Reply with quote

Bonesberg55 wrote:
You're either honest or you're not. As an example: "JFK was assassinated by John Wilkes Booth". Is that true or false?


Mickey bitsko wrote:
Imo there are many levels of truth in any topic/ happening, for instance, during a visit to Dallas jfk was assassinated riding in a convertible limousine next to his wife.


Yep, 125-year-old John Wilkes Booth shot JFK in Dallas. I think Geraldo covered the story.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2023 7:30 pm    Post subject: Re: if you think you are smarter than the previous generation.. Reply with quote

Is that the truth, I'll look it up on wikipedia/Wikimedia
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2023 6:50 am    Post subject: Re: if you think you are smarter than the previous generation.. Reply with quote

Mickey bitsko wrote:
The point of my comment was, AI technology is in our lives more and more daily, us old farts that have ,more or less common sense and deductive reasoning can tell bs when hear or see it, but the upcoming generations are doomed if they don't find a way to discern fact from fiction.


sorry but i have to point out how absolutely wrong this is. all humans are gullible and incapable of discerning logic. regardless of their generational affiliation. id argue that younger generations are more likely to smell BS online than most boomers are. there is no such thing as 'truth' since it is an abstract concept. but if i take a step off a ten story building i will die, that is not an opinion. its also not 'truth'. waht is funny to one person is not to another. is it still 'funny'?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2023 7:26 am    Post subject: Re: if you think you are smarter than the previous generation.. Reply with quote

Misspelled words are funny! Most people call them typos. They're not!
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2023 9:53 am    Post subject: Re: if you think you are smarter than the previous generation.. Reply with quote

according to the book I'm currently reading - to be a machine by mark o'connell - the 'singularity' event is not far away, 2045 is a recent estimate but it may be sooner. this is when artificial intelligence becomes smarter than us, from there the next step will be machines acting beyond our comprehension...a cheery thought Shocked
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2023 10:07 am    Post subject: Re: if you think you are smarter than the previous generation.. Reply with quote

I think most of Washington D.C. is already there! Their intelligence is about as fake as there is.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2023 10:42 am    Post subject: Re: if you think you are smarter than the previous generation.. Reply with quote

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according to the book I'm currently reading - to be a machine by mark o'connell - the 'singularity' event is not far away, 2045 is a recent estimate but it may be sooner. this is when artificial intelligence becomes smarter than us, from there the next step will be machines acting beyond our comprehension...a cheery thought Shocked


'The Terminator' was not that far off.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2023 11:25 am    Post subject: Re: if you think you are smarter than the previous generation.. Reply with quote

How do you measure intelligence? By the guy who is a Valedictorian because he memorized every single answer to a test or by the simple guy who finds alternate solutions to his problem by analyzing the cause and effect of his actions?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2023 11:52 am    Post subject: Re: if you think you are smarter than the previous generation.. Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2023 12:00 pm    Post subject: Re: if you think you are smarter than the previous generation.. Reply with quote

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Misspelled words are funny! Most people call them typos. They're not!


ad hominem logic is a fallacy, but most people pretend its them being correct.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2023 12:19 pm    Post subject: Re: if you think you are smarter than the previous generation.. Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2023 12:50 pm    Post subject: Re: if you think you are smarter than the previous generation.. Reply with quote

Bonesberg55 wrote:
Misspelled words are funny! Most people call them typos. They're not!


To Mark Tucker, misspelled words are a full time job.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2023 1:53 pm    Post subject: Re: if you think you are smarter than the previous generation.. Reply with quote

Anyone remember 1973 Westwworld starring Yul Brenner , great movie .
It fits perfect in today's world.
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