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Onceler Samba Member
Joined: May 28, 2010 Posts: 1647 Location: Indiana
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Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 7:15 am Post subject: Stolen vehicle tracking and recovery hypothetical |
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Let's say you bought a pile of a barndoor bus for next to free and over a couple of years of your own labor and cash, you've finally brought it up to a very nice bus that you've always wanted. You did it all: metal,body,paint, drivetrain, everything the best you could do and its worth quite a bit of money and it'd be difficult to replace even if you had the money to buy one.
Now, let's say you decide to install a GPS tracking device in it just in case.
One day you drive your beautiful bus to work and someone pulls up in a rollback and snatches it without anybody noticing. A couple hours later when you try to leave you find your beloved bus is gone.
What do you do?
Say the thieves have taken it 200 miles away to someone's house and it's in their garage. _________________ 1972 Karmann Ghia |
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Cusser Samba Member
Joined: October 02, 2006 Posts: 31385 Location: Hot Arizona
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Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 7:21 am Post subject: Re: Stolen vehicle tracking and recovery hypothetical |
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Onceler wrote: |
What do you do?
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I'd call the police.
Onceler wrote: |
Say the thieves have taken it 200 miles away to someone's house and it's in their garage. |
I'd call the police and share that information of person 200 miles away. _________________ 1970 VW (owned since 1972) and 1971 VW Convertible (owned since 1976), second owner of each. The '71 now has the 1835 engine, swapped from the '70. Second owner of each. 1988 Mazda B2200 truck, 1998 Frontier, 2014 Yukon, 2004 Frontier King Cab. All manual transmission except for the Yukon. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335294 http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335297 |
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EverettB Administrator
Joined: April 11, 2000 Posts: 69830 Location: Phoenix Metro
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Pruneman99 Samba Member
Joined: February 22, 2012 Posts: 5013 Location: Oceanside
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Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 10:21 am Post subject: Re: Stolen vehicle tracking and recovery hypothetical |
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Is this a joke? Call the cops, report it stolen. Let them know you have a GPS tracker on the vehicle and can tell them exactly where it is.
If the cops know where to go find it, they will.
Are you asking us if we would go all vigilante and confront them? Nope. I'm not getting shot for a Bus. |
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Xevin Samba Member
Joined: January 08, 2014 Posts: 7635
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Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 11:48 am Post subject: Re: Stolen vehicle tracking and recovery hypothetical |
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Not to hijack.
At what point would one call their insurance company? I have a couple of thoughts. Just curious what others would do. _________________ Keep on Busin'
67rustavenger wrote: |
GFY's Xevin and VW_Jimbo! |
Clatter wrote: |
Damn that Xevin... |
skills@eurocarsplus wrote: |
I respect Xevin and he's a turd |
SGKent wrote: |
My God! Xevin and I 100% agree |
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Abscate Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2014 Posts: 22670 Location: NYC/Upstate/ROW
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Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 11:51 am Post subject: Re: Stolen vehicle tracking and recovery hypothetical |
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Call the cops in the jurisdiction where the Bus is.
Warning. An apple tag doesn’t tell you where your Bus is. It tells you where your apple tag is.
Criminal possession of an apple tag is rarely prosecuted. _________________ .ssS! |
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Xevin Samba Member
Joined: January 08, 2014 Posts: 7635
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Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 12:00 pm Post subject: Re: Stolen vehicle tracking and recovery hypothetical |
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Abscate wrote: |
Call the cops in the jurisdiction where the Bus is.
Warning. An apple tag doesn’t tell you where your Bus is. It tells you where your apple tag is.
Criminal possession of an apple tag is rarely prosecuted. |
The police report the insurance company may require should be filed in the place where the bus was stolen. I would ask the police if I should follow up with the local law enforcement at the place the GPS is locating. _________________ Keep on Busin'
67rustavenger wrote: |
GFY's Xevin and VW_Jimbo! |
Clatter wrote: |
Damn that Xevin... |
skills@eurocarsplus wrote: |
I respect Xevin and he's a turd |
SGKent wrote: |
My God! Xevin and I 100% agree |
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Pruneman99 Samba Member
Joined: February 22, 2012 Posts: 5013 Location: Oceanside
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Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 12:37 pm Post subject: Re: Stolen vehicle tracking and recovery hypothetical |
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Xevin wrote: |
Not to hijack.
At what point would one call their insurance company? I have a couple of thoughts. Just curious what others would do. |
I would only call the insurance if I could not recover the vehicle, or if it was stripped, and I had some sort of policy that covered it. In the event the cops can go secure the bus unharmed, I'd just go pick it up, and tell the insurance nothing. |
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Xevin Samba Member
Joined: January 08, 2014 Posts: 7635
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Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 1:13 pm Post subject: Re: Stolen vehicle tracking and recovery hypothetical |
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Pruneman99 wrote: |
Xevin wrote: |
Not to hijack.
At what point would one call their insurance company? I have a couple of thoughts. Just curious what others would do. |
I would only call the insurance if I could not recover the vehicle, or if it was stripped, and I had some sort of policy that covered it. In the event the cops can go secure the bus unharmed, I'd just go pick it up, and tell the insurance nothing. |
Some people might hide the fact they have GPS information from law enforcement to cash in on the policy. If the have a proper policy. _________________ Keep on Busin'
67rustavenger wrote: |
GFY's Xevin and VW_Jimbo! |
Clatter wrote: |
Damn that Xevin... |
skills@eurocarsplus wrote: |
I respect Xevin and he's a turd |
SGKent wrote: |
My God! Xevin and I 100% agree |
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finster Samba Member
Joined: May 26, 2012 Posts: 7951 Location: north o' the border
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Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 1:15 pm Post subject: Re: Stolen vehicle tracking and recovery hypothetical |
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is this really hypothetical? asking for a friend... _________________ "we're here on Earth to fart around" kurt vonnegut
nothing lasts, nothing is finished, and nothing is perfect... |
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Joe 20 Samba Member
Joined: August 27, 2005 Posts: 655 Location: Ohio
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Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 8:53 pm Post subject: Re: Stolen vehicle tracking and recovery hypothetical |
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Of course you'd call the cops unless say, there is a shit ton of dope in the bus or a dead body...hypothetically of course _________________ "Someday the world is gonna be populated by nothing but Volkswagens'" Corporal Klairvoy |
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Onceler Samba Member
Joined: May 28, 2010 Posts: 1647 Location: Indiana
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Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2023 8:53 am Post subject: Re: Stolen vehicle tracking and recovery hypothetical |
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Thanks for all the responses to this hypothetical and yes it is purely hypothetical. However, I do have an interest in gps tracking for a vehicle.
Everyone seems to be in agreement that calling the police is the correct answer and I agree. But will the police actually be able to do anything? I would imagine the thieves wouldn’t just allow the police inside to look around. Maybe I’m wrong. _________________ 1972 Karmann Ghia |
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Xevin Samba Member
Joined: January 08, 2014 Posts: 7635
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Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2023 9:19 am Post subject: Re: Stolen vehicle tracking and recovery hypothetical |
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Onceler wrote: |
Thanks for all the responses to this hypothetical and yes it is purely hypothetical. However, I do have an interest in gps tracking for a vehicle.
Everyone seems to be in agreement that calling the police is the correct answer and I agree. But will the police actually be able to do anything? I would imagine the thieves wouldn’t just allow the police inside to look around. Maybe I’m wrong. |
If the police are not actually going to do anything. Then call your insurance.
Call your local law enforcement and ask how they would handle the situation. I’d be curious about this as well. _________________ Keep on Busin'
67rustavenger wrote: |
GFY's Xevin and VW_Jimbo! |
Clatter wrote: |
Damn that Xevin... |
skills@eurocarsplus wrote: |
I respect Xevin and he's a turd |
SGKent wrote: |
My God! Xevin and I 100% agree |
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TDCTDI Samba Advocatus Diaboli
Joined: August 31, 2013 Posts: 12861 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2023 9:41 am Post subject: Re: Stolen vehicle tracking and recovery hypothetical |
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Call your local PD & report vehicle stolen. With report in hand, call PD where tracker pings at & give them the specifics, they (should) will get a warrant to search the property. _________________ Everybody born before 1975 has a story, good, bad, or indifferent, about a VW.
GOFUNDYOURSELF, quit asking everyone to do it for you!
An air cooled VW will make you a hoarder.
Do something, anything, to your project every day, and you will eventually complete it. |
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scottyrocks Samba Member
Joined: August 19, 2016 Posts: 2666 Location: Long Island, NY
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Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2023 9:46 am Post subject: Re: Stolen vehicle tracking and recovery hypothetical |
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Onceler wrote: |
Thanks for all the responses to this hypothetical and yes it is purely hypothetical. However, I do have an interest in gps tracking for a vehicle.
Everyone seems to be in agreement that calling the police is the correct answer and I agree. But will the police actually be able to do anything? I would imagine the thieves wouldn’t just allow the police inside to look around. Maybe I’m wrong. |
GPS is accurate down to the address. The hypothetical you could go to that local PCT, explain what's up, show the GPS location and a photo of the vehicle, and ask for a cruiser or two to head to the address. _________________ “If you care for a thing long enough, it takes on a life of its own, doesn't it? Mending old things, preserving them, looking after them – on some level there's no rational grounds for it.”
– D. Tartt, 'The Goldfinch' |
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ToolBox Samba Member
Joined: January 27, 2004 Posts: 3439 Location: Detroit, where they don't jack parts off my ride in the parking lot of the 7-11
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Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2023 9:46 am Post subject: Re: Stolen vehicle tracking and recovery hypothetical |
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A lot of the GPS trackers have features such as tilt/bump sensors, the abality to set geofence, speed limits, power cutoff, listen to in car sounds and many other options that can alert you almost in real time what is going on. |
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finster Samba Member
Joined: May 26, 2012 Posts: 7951 Location: north o' the border
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Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2023 1:34 pm Post subject: Re: Stolen vehicle tracking and recovery hypothetical |
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I'm telling you officer, it's in one of those containers! do something!
_________________ "we're here on Earth to fart around" kurt vonnegut
nothing lasts, nothing is finished, and nothing is perfect... |
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busdaddy Samba Member
Joined: February 12, 2004 Posts: 51156 Location: Surrey B.C. Canada, but thinking of Ukraine
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Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2023 2:51 pm Post subject: Re: Stolen vehicle tracking and recovery hypothetical |
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If it's like the one my Son has (2-3 years old) the signal would have been lost as soon as it went into the container, that thing can't even make contact when it's located under the hood, we had to mount it up under the dash so there was only plastic and glass in the way.
Great for when it's on the move to the hideout, but if they put it in a building or can it disappears, you'd only have the last known location for the cops. _________________ Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.
Please don't PM technical questions, ask your problem in public so everyone can play along. If you think it's too stupid post it here
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Onceler Samba Member
Joined: May 28, 2010 Posts: 1647 Location: Indiana
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Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2023 6:29 pm Post subject: Re: Stolen vehicle tracking and recovery hypothetical |
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^^^ Well, that’s disheartening, but good to know. _________________ 1972 Karmann Ghia |
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finster Samba Member
Joined: May 26, 2012 Posts: 7951 Location: north o' the border
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Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2023 3:15 am Post subject: Re: Stolen vehicle tracking and recovery hypothetical |
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nobody has suggested posting the info on the samba and vw enthusiast facebook groups. if it's on an open trailer it will be spotted by someone. I remember there was a green bus stolen in the uk a couple of years ago, owner posted info on the net, within hours it was spotted headed for europe and then found by enthusiasts on the continent.
I would not expect much from the police other than a refence number for the insurers _________________ "we're here on Earth to fart around" kurt vonnegut
nothing lasts, nothing is finished, and nothing is perfect... |
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