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PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2023 2:08 pm    Post subject: Frame number Reply with quote

Is there anyone that can shine a light on the use of the frame number on a chassis(not the vin...)?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2023 2:15 am    Post subject: Re: Frame number Reply with quote

I'm not sure what you're asking and the photo you posted yesterday isn't showing. the number on the frame tunnel should match the one on the vin plate. by 'use of the frame number' do you mean using it to register the car?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2023 3:58 am    Post subject: Re: Frame number Reply with quote

On a vw..
The whole car is identified with the vin nr - Stamped on the tunnel and type plate and used to register the car itself on a licenseplate. The frame nr can been seen as the engine nr, front beam nr, gearbox nr, key nr and is to identify the part itself.. A NOS chassis has no VIN nr stamped but only a frame nr as that is used at VW to register it as a part. It is not used to register it as a car.
Frame nr is to be found on a split near the vin nr, 90° stamped in the tunnel or on the crossmeber left side rear of the pan.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2023 2:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Frame number Reply with quote

On my October 1949 the frame number was stamped perpendicular to the chassis number under the rear seat.


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I've also seen them IIRC on the tunnel around the e-brake/shifter area.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 30, 2023 1:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Frame number Reply with quote

finster wrote:
I'm not sure what you're asking and the photo you posted yesterday isn't showing. the number on the frame tunnel should match the one on the vin plate. by 'use of the frame number' do you mean using it to register the car?


I meant the extra number, not the vin Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 30, 2023 1:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Frame number Reply with quote

peter schepens wrote:
On a vw..
The whole car is identified with the vin nr - Stamped on the tunnel and type plate and used to register the car itself on a licenseplate. The frame nr can been seen as the engine nr, front beam nr, gearbox nr, key nr and is to identify the part itself.. A NOS chassis has no VIN nr stamped but only a frame nr as that is used at VW to register it as a part. It is not used to register it as a car.
Frame nr is to be found on a split near the vin nr, 90° stamped in the tunnel or on the crossmeber left side rear of the pan.


Thanks Peter, that helps!
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 30, 2023 1:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Frame number Reply with quote

nlorntson wrote:
On my October 1949 the frame number was stamped perpendicular to the chassis number under the rear seat.


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I've also seen them IIRC on the tunnel around the e-brake/shifter area.


That's the one I meant. thanks.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 30, 2023 11:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Frame number Reply with quote

soulsurfer26 wrote:
peter schepens wrote:
On a vw..
The whole car is identified with the vin nr - Stamped on the tunnel and type plate and used to register the car itself on a licenseplate. The frame nr can been seen as the engine nr, front beam nr, gearbox nr, key nr and is to identify the part itself.. A NOS chassis has no VIN nr stamped but only a frame nr as that is used at VW to register it as a part. It is not used to register it as a car.
Frame nr is to be found on a split near the vin nr, 90° stamped in the tunnel or on the crossmeber left side rear of the pan.


Thanks Peter, that helps!


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2023 3:31 am    Post subject: Re: Frame number Reply with quote

peter schepens wrote:
On a vw..
The whole car is identified with the vin nr - Stamped on the tunnel and type plate and used to register the car itself on a licenseplate. The frame nr can been seen as the engine nr, front beam nr, gearbox nr, key nr and is to identify the part itself.. A NOS chassis has no VIN nr stamped but only a frame nr as that is used at VW to register it as a part. It is not used to register it as a car.
Frame nr is to be found on a split near the vin nr, 90° stamped in the tunnel or on the crossmeber left side rear of the pan.


Is it possible to accurately date the chassis by this number?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2023 11:23 am    Post subject: Re: Frame number Reply with quote

The frame number was perpendicular to thw VIN until end of 1949. Then it moved to the front face of the left, rear, triangular outrigger on the pan.
This number can be used to date the floorpan just like we date engines, transmissions and front suspensions.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2023 11:33 am    Post subject: Re: Frame number Reply with quote

SplitPersonality wrote:
The frame number was perpendicular to thw VIN until end of 1949. Then it moved to the front face of the left, rear, triangular outrigger on the pan.
This number can be used to date the floorpan just like we date engines, transmissions and front suspensions.

thanks. When you say pre end of 49, does that include KDF or is it 45 onward?
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