Sand rail oil cooler

JeffnDes1977 · Samba Member Joined: March 28, 2007 Posts: 191

Do I need this cooler? I'm planning to change the rear of this cage and it will be in the way.

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Thanks!
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Glenn · Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2023 7:06 am Post subject: Re: Sand rail oil cooler

The setup you have required the stock oil cooler to be removed. So you need to keep the one you have or put the stock cooler back in.
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JeffnDes1977 · Samba Member Joined: March 28, 2007 Posts: 191

I definitely understand that and figured that. I wouldn't mind reusing it. Would the original style work well enough for this? This buggy probably won't see sand. My main use will be on 10 acres where I live and eventually a fishing buggy in the mountains.
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1977 Bay 2.0 FI
1968 Sandrail/ woods buggy project
1970 Sandrail
19?? Sandrail project - soon to be for sale!
1960 Beetle - My first car!

Glenn · Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2023 7:41 am Post subject: Re: Sand rail oil cooler

The stock setup was good enough for a Beetle, your rail is a lot lighter, so i can't imagine it would be a problem.
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JeffnDes1977 · Samba Member Joined: March 28, 2007 Posts: 191

Okay! I have a few original doghouses laying around that I could use. If I can make this one work with my new configuration, I will. Otherwise, Ill change it. Thanks!
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1977 Bay 2.0 FI
1968 Sandrail/ woods buggy project
1970 Sandrail
19?? Sandrail project - soon to be for sale!
1960 Beetle - My first car!

Glenn · Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2023 7:58 am Post subject: Re: Sand rail oil cooler

You're existing shroud is a non-doghouse, so you'll need to change the shroud and fan.
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JeffnDes1977 · Samba Member Joined: March 28, 2007 Posts: 191

Yup. I’ve got a couple stock ones with the oil cooler parts.
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1977 Bay 2.0 FI
1968 Sandrail/ woods buggy project
1970 Sandrail
19?? Sandrail project - soon to be for sale!
1960 Beetle - My first car!

JeffnDes1977 · Samba Member Joined: March 28, 2007 Posts: 191

I plan to move and re-plumb this one for now. But, if it doesn’t work out, I’ll swap back to stock.
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1977 Bay 2.0 FI
1968 Sandrail/ woods buggy project
1970 Sandrail
19?? Sandrail project - soon to be for sale!
1960 Beetle - My first car!

Stormin189 · Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2023 12:39 pm Post subject: Re: Sand rail oil cooler

In my humble opinion the best cooling possible is done with a factory dog house setup on a dual relief case.

If I was inclined to run a external cooler i would mount it low, and tie in from a full flow setup.

Best of luck on your build

JeffnDes1977 · Samba Member Joined: March 28, 2007 Posts: 191

I like the idea of stock cooling with the addition of a screw on filter.
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1977 Bay 2.0 FI
1968 Sandrail/ woods buggy project
1970 Sandrail
19?? Sandrail project - soon to be for sale!
1960 Beetle - My first car!

oprn · Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2023 8:41 pm Post subject: Re: Sand rail oil cooler

^^^And that is exactly what I have.^^^ You would have to be doing some pretty serious high speed racing to need that cooler!
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JeffnDes1977 · Samba Member Joined: March 28, 2007 Posts: 191

Driving in third gear in this thing is almost terrifying. So I won't be racing anytime soon!
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1977 Bay 2.0 FI
1968 Sandrail/ woods buggy project
1970 Sandrail
19?? Sandrail project - soon to be for sale!
1960 Beetle - My first car!

Stinky123 · Posted: Wed May 03, 2023 10:14 pm Post subject: Re: Sand rail oil cooler

If you remove that cooler....what are you gonna do for an oil filter?

Ain't no way that I'd run the sand w/o a filter.

There isn't anything wrong w/the way that is mounted. If you have to move it, you might be able to mount it below your gas tank. If you do that, move the oil filter so it catches some air also. The big thing is, they have to catch a breeze.

If you change to a dog-house, you should get rid of that Power-Pulley....unless it doesn't get hot where you are at.

oprn · Posted: Thu May 04, 2023 3:35 am Post subject: Re: Sand rail oil cooler

Good catch on the filter! It's only filtering on a fully warmed up engine, not on cold start up. Something to think about.
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