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Tbrett4 Samba Member
Joined: May 24, 2023 Posts: 8 Location: Kansas
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Posted: Wed May 24, 2023 8:33 pm Post subject: Aftermarket AC smells like oil |
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Just bought my first bug. It's a 71 super beetle. The AC wasn't working when I bought it. It had a ground wire that was unattached and dangling. I got a good ground connection and now it works... It just smells like I've got mechanic scented air freshener. Anyone else ever run into this? Know how to fix it? Pic is of the brand and serial number.
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jeffrey8164 Samba Member
Joined: January 06, 2018 Posts: 3818 Location: Georgia
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Posted: Thu May 25, 2023 6:54 am Post subject: Re: Aftermarket AC smells like gas/oil |
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Spray some Ozium through it while it’s blowing.
Might help. _________________ Volkswagen!
Turning owners into mechanics since 1938.
“Let he that is without oil throw the first rod”
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Tbrett4 Samba Member
Joined: May 24, 2023 Posts: 8 Location: Kansas
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Posted: Thu May 25, 2023 4:24 pm Post subject: Re: Aftermarket AC smells like gas/oil |
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I'll give it a go! It doesn't seem to be burning oil, so I don't think that's the culprit. |
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Cusser Samba Member
Joined: October 02, 2006 Posts: 31379 Location: Hot Arizona
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Posted: Thu May 25, 2023 5:05 pm Post subject: Re: Aftermarket AC smells like oil |
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The air intake should be at the evaporator case under the dash, and exits also through the evaporator vents. So, unless there's a refrigerant/refrigerant oil leak inside the evaporator, the smell must be coming from something in the evaporator case. _________________ 1970 VW (owned since 1972) and 1971 VW Convertible (owned since 1976), second owner of each. The '71 now has the 1835 engine, swapped from the '70. Second owner of each. 1988 Mazda B2200 truck, 1998 Frontier, 2014 Yukon, 2004 Frontier King Cab. All manual transmission except for the Yukon. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335294 http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335297 |
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Beeble1 Samba Member
Joined: August 14, 2012 Posts: 578 Location: Manteno, Illinois
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Posted: Thu May 25, 2023 5:16 pm Post subject: Re: Aftermarket AC smells like oil |
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It might just be from age… run the A/C for a while and see if the smell goes away. By the way, that’s not aftermarket, that’s original A/C that was installed by the dealer when the car was new. _________________ Beeble1, ‘73 Super (o\_|_/o) 1600cc w/ Dealer A/C
Beeble2, ‘13 Beetle 2.5L Daily Driver
Dealership items from Bishop-Wayne Volkswagen & Turner Volkswagen in Kankakee, IL wanted |
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Cusser Samba Member
Joined: October 02, 2006 Posts: 31379 Location: Hot Arizona
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Posted: Thu May 25, 2023 5:47 pm Post subject: Re: Aftermarket AC smells like oil |
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Beeble1 wrote: |
By the way, that’s not aftermarket, that’s original A/C that was installed by the dealer when the car was new. |
My 1970 sedan originally had dealer-installed DPD AC kit. _________________ 1970 VW (owned since 1972) and 1971 VW Convertible (owned since 1976), second owner of each. The '71 now has the 1835 engine, swapped from the '70. Second owner of each. 1988 Mazda B2200 truck, 1998 Frontier, 2014 Yukon, 2004 Frontier King Cab. All manual transmission except for the Yukon. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335294 http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335297 |
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Tbrett4 Samba Member
Joined: May 24, 2023 Posts: 8 Location: Kansas
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Posted: Thu May 25, 2023 7:13 pm Post subject: Re: Aftermarket AC smells like oil |
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Update: got under the bug today. Refrigerant hoses are cut, got under the car and discovered I have a very slow oil leak. It hasn't dripped into my driveway, but I can tell there's fresh oil from somewhere. I'm guessing it's burning just enough to make the smell. Will have to check in more later. |
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Beeble1 Samba Member
Joined: August 14, 2012 Posts: 578 Location: Manteno, Illinois
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Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 7:43 am Post subject: Re: Aftermarket AC smells like oil |
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Cusser wrote: |
My 1970 sedan originally had dealer-installed DPD AC kit. |
My 73 super beetle does too… I rebuild it a few years ago and it works great! I had new hoses custom made and converted to 134a, but the compressor, condenser, and evaporator are all original DPD equipment.
I always get questions at car shows when people see that giant York compressor in the engine bay. _________________ Beeble1, ‘73 Super (o\_|_/o) 1600cc w/ Dealer A/C
Beeble2, ‘13 Beetle 2.5L Daily Driver
Dealership items from Bishop-Wayne Volkswagen & Turner Volkswagen in Kankakee, IL wanted |
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Cusser Samba Member
Joined: October 02, 2006 Posts: 31379 Location: Hot Arizona
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Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 8:30 am Post subject: Re: Aftermarket AC smells like oil |
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Beeble1 wrote: |
Cusser wrote: |
My 1970 sedan originally had dealer-installed DPD AC kit. |
My 73 super beetle does too… I rebuild it a few years ago and it works great! I I had new hoses custom made and converted to 134a, but the compressor, condenser, and evaporator are all original DPD equipment. |
Big difference in AC comfort for you in Illinois than for me in Arizona !!!! I went through several compressors, and AC worked "OK" if one parked in the shade beforehand (but little shade here). I used R-12.
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Cusser wrote: |
My 1970 sedan originally had dealer-installed DPD AC kit. |
My 73 super beetle does too… I always get questions at car shows when people see that giant York compressor in the engine bay. |
My 1970 had black Tecumseh compressor, and I had to change that a couple of times; I bought my 1970 in late 1972 so knew that Tecumseh was the originally-installed one. _________________ 1970 VW (owned since 1972) and 1971 VW Convertible (owned since 1976), second owner of each. The '71 now has the 1835 engine, swapped from the '70. Second owner of each. 1988 Mazda B2200 truck, 1998 Frontier, 2014 Yukon, 2004 Frontier King Cab. All manual transmission except for the Yukon. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335294 http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335297 |
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chicagovw Samba Member
Joined: January 06, 2007 Posts: 1422 Location: Chicago IL/CHandler AZ
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Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 8:52 am Post subject: Re: Aftermarket AC smells like oil |
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@cusser, I split time between Chicago, IL and Chandler, AZ-you would be surprised at how rough the Chicago Summers can be. When it gets to the mid to high 80s, and humidity that the Phoenix area does not see, I find that it is more uncomfortable in IL than AZ even when it is 15. I run a/c in most of my air cooled VWs in both states (my 67 which I keep in AZ lacks it, although I have considered adding it-it has a 2332 cc with 48IDAs so it would be a challenge to fit though. |
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Busstom Samba Member
Joined: November 23, 2014 Posts: 3851 Location: San Jose, CA
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Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 10:48 am Post subject: Re: Aftermarket AC smells like oil |
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Tbrett4 wrote: |
Update: got under the bug today. Refrigerant hoses are cut, got under the car and discovered I have a very slow oil leak. It hasn't dripped into my driveway, but I can tell there's fresh oil from somewhere. I'm guessing it's burning just enough to make the smell. Will have to check in more later. |
The refrigerant hoses are cut? If they've actually been cut, and there's oil weeping out of one or both of them, then the refrigerant (which is under pressure) would've leaked out long ago, and the air blowing out of the under-dash unit would not be cold. So when you said in your first post that "now it works," you must be referring to the compressor "on" function and the fan in the evaporator unit, but it shouldn't be creating cool air. _________________ My name's Steve and it's pronounced "Bust 'em" (cuz people think I'm Tom) 😏 |
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Tbrett4 Samba Member
Joined: May 24, 2023 Posts: 8 Location: Kansas
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Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 7:08 pm Post subject: Re: Aftermarket AC smells like oil |
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That's correct. The blower kicks on, and essentially is a fan but does not blow cold air. |
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Cusser Samba Member
Joined: October 02, 2006 Posts: 31379 Location: Hot Arizona
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Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 7:51 pm Post subject: Re: Aftermarket AC smells like oil |
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Busstom wrote: |
The refrigerant hoses are cut? If they've actually been cut, and there's oil weeping out of one or both of them, then the refrigerant (which is under pressure) would've leaked out long ago, and the air blowing out of the under-dash unit would not be cold. So when you said in your first post that "now it works," you must be referring to the compressor "on" function and the fan in the evaporator unit, but it shouldn't be creating cool air. |
If the refrigerant hoses were cut, your system is crap !!! _________________ 1970 VW (owned since 1972) and 1971 VW Convertible (owned since 1976), second owner of each. The '71 now has the 1835 engine, swapped from the '70. Second owner of each. 1988 Mazda B2200 truck, 1998 Frontier, 2014 Yukon, 2004 Frontier King Cab. All manual transmission except for the Yukon. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335294 http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335297 |
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