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PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2023 8:38 pm    Post subject: Its time for me to buy new tires----thoughts on tire size?? Reply with quote

Hey everyone I'm currently running P205 / 75 R14 tires

They are really old and showing signs of dry rot and cracking. The tires are defiantly overdue for a change. Embarassed

I don't use my bus to often but still want it to be a safe ride.

I'm looking to go cheep as my budget is next to nothing. Sad

Before I just put the same size tires on I thought I'd ask everyone what size tires they prefer. Idea

If money wasn't tight I know I would be going with general grabber but still unsure of which size is best I've heard of folks running a few different sizes.

what are your opinions size wise? Question Question Question
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PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2023 8:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Its time for me to buy new tires----thoughts on tire size?? Reply with quote

https://www.ebay.com/itm/234622221212?mkcid=16&...media=COPY


https://www.ebay.com/itm/334495595196?mkcid=16&...media=COPY

For $80 more I’d buy the Grabbers. I’ve had both and the Grabbers definitely offer a better ride. What year is your bus and what size engine?
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PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2023 8:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Its time for me to buy new tires----thoughts on tire size?? Reply with quote

richparker wrote:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/234622221212?mkcid=16&...media=COPY


https://www.ebay.com/itm/334495595196?mkcid=16&...media=COPY

For $80 more I’d buy the Grabbers. I’ve had both and the Grabbers definitely offer a better ride. What year is your bus and what size engine?



Hi I have a 1969 VW Westy and it has a 1600 engine.
Do you think I should stick with the size I'm running now? which is 205 /75 /14

Money is tight but I can tell these tires I have now are dangerous , so i'm even considering swapping them out for a used set that isn't cracked and dry rotted
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PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2023 9:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Its time for me to buy new tires----thoughts on tire size?? Reply with quote

Go with the Hankooks. The Grabbers will drag too much with that engine.
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PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2023 10:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Its time for me to buy new tires----thoughts on tire size?? Reply with quote

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Go with the Hankooks. The Grabbers will drag too much with that engine.


What engine do you think is optimal for the Grabbers?
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PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2023 11:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Its time for me to buy new tires----thoughts on tire size?? Reply with quote

Get the Hankook vantra 195/14 or 185/14
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PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2023 2:40 am    Post subject: Re: Its time for me to buy new tires----thoughts on tire size?? Reply with quote

Hankook 185r14c as said before.
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PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2023 3:20 am    Post subject: Re: Its time for me to buy new tires----thoughts on tire size?? Reply with quote

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Hankook 185r14c as said before.
My choice also.
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PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2023 4:27 am    Post subject: Re: Its time for me to buy new tires----thoughts on tire size?? Reply with quote

I have run 215/70r14 about half the time on my Transporters, buy a decent quality set and they will do you well. You can typically find them with a selection of all season tread patterns. Load wise (after a 9% load reduction) they can carry 99% of the rear axle rating, so unless you are running close to maximum load continually should do you fine.
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PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2023 5:08 am    Post subject: Re: Its time for me to buy new tires----thoughts on tire size?? Reply with quote

brookmp wrote:
richparker wrote:
Go with the Hankooks. The Grabbers will drag too much with that engine.


What engine do you think is optimal for the Grabbers?
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PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2023 5:44 am    Post subject: Re: Its time for me to buy new tires----thoughts on tire size?? Reply with quote

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Go with the Hankooks. The Grabbers will drag too much with that engine.


What engine do you think is optimal for the Grabbers?


Something larger than a 1600. Although I do know plenty of people who run the combo, I would want more power with those tires tho.
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PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2023 7:12 am    Post subject: Re: Its time for me to buy new tires----thoughts on tire size?? Reply with quote

for a driven infrequently in Sunny California coast vw I'd go with these Haidas
$75ea delivered.. low rolling resistance of a 185 cross width but same height

https://www.ebay.com/itm/354754860659?hash=item5299099673
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 03, 2023 8:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Its time for me to buy new tires----thoughts on tire size?? Reply with quote

I have found a really good deal on a used set of :

Michelin 205 70 VR14 XWX

can anyone tell me if these will fit onto my 1969 VW bus? Question


I don't have much cash and these are available to me locally and within my limited budget
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 03, 2023 9:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Its time for me to buy new tires----thoughts on tire size?? Reply with quote

You may be missing the point. It’s not only about tire size…. It’s also very much about load rating
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 03, 2023 10:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Its time for me to buy new tires----thoughts on tire size?? Reply with quote

aeromech wrote:
You may be missing the point. It’s not only about tire size…. It’s also very much about load rating
Size does matter but stiffness is key, that's what she said.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 03, 2023 11:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Its time for me to buy new tires----thoughts on tire size?? Reply with quote

Those tires only have a 89 load index, meaning they can only carry 81% of the minimum load rating for a bus tire, that puts them in the iffy range.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 04, 2023 9:37 am    Post subject: Re: Its time for me to buy new tires----thoughts on tire size?? Reply with quote

Apart from the correct commercial van rated tyres, most car tyres are not high enough load rated for a bus. Ideally they need 102 or 104 load rating . but that is hard to find.

You will find clues like the maximum tyre inflation pressure will be 40 psi while the sticker in the bus suggests 45 psi at the rear for full load..

At least my tyres have a max pressure of 50 psi , and a rating of 92XL which is barely into acceptable levels. As a result they get worn out in about 10k miles.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 04, 2023 12:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Its time for me to buy new tires----thoughts on tire size?? Reply with quote

15" wheels and 215/65R15 .. the bus will drive MUCH better

or if you want to keep 14"
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=...mpare1=yes

26" outer diameter is what you want

EDIT: looks like rich already suggested the vantra .. it's the perfect size
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 04, 2023 12:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Its time for me to buy new tires----thoughts on tire size?? Reply with quote

I run the Hankook Hankook 185r14 (the proper truck/van tire).

metahacker wrote:
15" wheels and 215/65R15 .. the bus will drive MUCH better

or if you want to keep 14"
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=...mpare1=yes

26" outer diameter is what you want

EDIT: looks like rich already suggested the vantra .. it's the perfect size

Define what you mean by "...will drive MUCH better". That's way too vague.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 04, 2023 4:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Its time for me to buy new tires----thoughts on tire size?? Reply with quote

If you want to go with a passenger tire, a P215/70R14 will carry 99% of the rated axle load and give pretty good service. They have been better than about 50% of the various truck tires I have tried and not far off from being equal to the others. They are a bit larger in diameter than a 185r14.

The next step up is a P215/15R14 which will easily carry the rated axle load. I have a set of these on my Vanagon and am happy with them. IIRC they are almost 27" in diameter versus 25.5" for a 185R14.

Note that most 215/75R14 are trailer tires, but there are a few passenger vehicle tires in that size.
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