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Bug53 Samba Member
Joined: February 22, 2021 Posts: 704 Location: Pawcatuck, CT.
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Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 8:02 pm Post subject: Beware ! Don't use EMPI oil screens |
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They use nifty cad. plated tin and where it's crimped to hold the screen in all the plating chips off along with the plating on the flat areas.
The stuff was flaking all over the place.
Another problem is that it's made of heavier gauge sheet tin which doesn't conform to being shaped and simply wrinkles. No paper oil change gasket is going to seal that up.
I am real happy I didn't run this piece of crap after being EMPI'd with an aluminum degree pulley nightmare.
When will this China invasion end? _________________ Never blame lazy people, they didn't do anything. |
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oprn Samba Member
Joined: November 13, 2016 Posts: 12714 Location: Western Canada
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Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 8:48 pm Post subject: Re: Beware ! Don't use EMPI oil screens |
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And when will people stop throwing away perfectly good re-usable stock parts and buying that junk? Those screens don't wear out. They get abused by guys with 10 thumbs and no clues but they never wear out. _________________ We had the stone age, the bronze age, the industrial age and now we are in the age of mass deception and mind control for corporate profit. (The mass media age) |
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Bug53 Samba Member
Joined: February 22, 2021 Posts: 704 Location: Pawcatuck, CT.
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Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 9:56 pm Post subject: Re: Beware ! Don't use EMPI oil screens |
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oprn wrote: |
And when will people stop throwing away perfectly good re-usable stock parts and buying that junk? Those screens don't wear out. They get abused by guys with 10 thumbs and no clues but they never wear out. |
Correct.
I have a couple OEM's around and with a rinse and blow-dry they go right back in. _________________ Never blame lazy people, they didn't do anything. |
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modok Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2009 Posts: 26785 Location: Colorado Springs
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Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 10:12 pm Post subject: Re: Beware ! Don't use EMPI oil screens |
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It's like...... you buy a tweety bird from the ice cream truck.... are you expecting the gumball eyes to be placed correctly?
I'd be slightly let down if it did match the picture. |
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Bug53 Samba Member
Joined: February 22, 2021 Posts: 704 Location: Pawcatuck, CT.
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Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 11:19 pm Post subject: Re: Beware ! Don't use EMPI oil screens |
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modok wrote: |
It's like...... you buy a tweety bird from the ice cream truck.... are you expecting the gumball eyes to be placed correctly?
I'd be slightly let down if it did match the picture. |
Good one. _________________ Never blame lazy people, they didn't do anything. |
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RickS Samba Member
Joined: May 05, 2005 Posts: 430 Location: Speonk, NY
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Posted: Sat May 27, 2023 3:49 am Post subject: Re: Beware ! Don't use EMPI oil screens |
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Bug53 wrote: |
When will this China invasion end? |
When people quit buying this crap. |
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Glenn Mr. 010
Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 76911 Location: Sneaking up behind you
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Posted: Sat May 27, 2023 4:23 am Post subject: Re: Beware ! Don't use EMPI oil screens |
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RickS wrote: |
Bug53 wrote: |
When will this China invasion end? |
When people quit buying this crap. |
Never, VW people are cheap. _________________ Glenn
74 Beetle Specs | 74 Beetle Restoration | 2180cc Engine
"You may not get what you pay for, but you always pay for what you get"
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nsracing Samba Member
Joined: November 16, 2003 Posts: 9462 Location: NOVA
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Posted: Sat May 27, 2023 5:24 am Post subject: Re: Beware ! Don't use EMPI oil screens |
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The VW hobby are mostly hippies - |
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oprn Samba Member
Joined: November 13, 2016 Posts: 12714 Location: Western Canada
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Posted: Sat May 27, 2023 5:31 am Post subject: Re: Beware ! Don't use EMPI oil screens |
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nsracing wrote: |
The VW hobby used to be mostly hippies - |
Fixed it for you! _________________ We had the stone age, the bronze age, the industrial age and now we are in the age of mass deception and mind control for corporate profit. (The mass media age) |
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vwracerdave Samba Member
Joined: November 11, 2004 Posts: 15303 Location: Deep in the 405
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Posted: Sat May 27, 2023 6:55 am Post subject: Re: Beware ! Don't use EMPI oil screens |
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Some of us DO NOT use a screen at all when running a full flow with an oil filter. _________________ 2017 Street Comp Champion - Thunder Valley Raceway Park - Noble, OK
2010 Sportsman ET Champion - Mid-America Dragway - Arkansas City, KS
1997 Sportsman ET Champion - Thunder Valley Raceway Park - Noble ,OK
Featured in Dec. 2001 HOT VW's Magazine page 63
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chrisflstf Samba Member
Joined: February 10, 2004 Posts: 3439 Location: San Diego
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Posted: Sat May 27, 2023 7:34 am Post subject: Re: Beware ! Don't use EMPI oil screens |
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I bought one of those and its in the trash now. The holes are waaay off, from the studs, plus the wrinkles. No way. No screen for me, just a good magnet |
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oprn Samba Member
Joined: November 13, 2016 Posts: 12714 Location: Western Canada
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Posted: Sat May 27, 2023 8:23 am Post subject: Re: Beware ! Don't use EMPI oil screens |
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I suppose that an engine in good running condition and properly maintained really doesn't need either. To me though a filter means there is a better chance the crank, cam and rods will be re-usable on the next rebuild if something goes south. The screen just adds the oil pump to the list so I use both. _________________ We had the stone age, the bronze age, the industrial age and now we are in the age of mass deception and mind control for corporate profit. (The mass media age) |
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fl59bug Samba Member
Joined: November 23, 2005 Posts: 1976 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Sat May 27, 2023 9:40 am Post subject: Re: Beware ! Don't use EMPI oil screens |
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Check this out and let me know your thoughts. While it doesn't have the same issues as the EMPI strainer, the strainer I purchased has little "ears" on the pickup tube holder. I'm afraid these will slice into the pickup tube and add some metal shavings to the oil, and haven't used it yet therefore.
I thought about filing them down, but would need a TINY file or pick.
Ted
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DesertSasquatchXploration Samba Member
Joined: April 16, 2021 Posts: 541
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clockworkbox Samba Member
Joined: July 12, 2020 Posts: 282 Location: Williamsport, PA
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Posted: Sat May 27, 2023 3:28 pm Post subject: Re: Beware ! Don't use EMPI oil screens |
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Other that OE, what would be better than Empi? Are the Dansk screens any better? _________________ '69 Beetle (pieces)
Learning the hard way is still learning... |
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bsairhead Samba Member
Joined: October 08, 2008 Posts: 3565 Location: viroqua wi.
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Posted: Sat May 27, 2023 5:45 pm Post subject: Re: Beware ! Don't use EMPI oil screens |
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I just did google shopping and found one vender that had one that didn't look like screen door screen. My driver my spare motor and the two i have in my stash all have much smaller holes than the one pictured here. |
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esde Samba Member
Joined: October 20, 2007 Posts: 5966 Location: central rust belt
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Posted: Sat May 27, 2023 6:16 pm Post subject: Re: Beware ! Don't use EMPI oil screens |
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clockworkbox wrote: |
Other that OE, what would be better than Empi? Are the Dansk screens any better? |
I have found the Wolfsburg West screens to be fine.
I was super bummed when Empi acquired JayCee, because I refuse to support the garbage they push onto the market. If they gave 2 cents about the hobby they wouldn't let most of this crap get out the door. _________________ modok wrote:
Bent cranks are silent but gather no moss. I mean, ah, something like that. |
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oprn Samba Member
Joined: November 13, 2016 Posts: 12714 Location: Western Canada
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Posted: Sun May 28, 2023 4:58 am Post subject: Re: Beware ! Don't use EMPI oil screens |
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An old Boss of mine once said "We are not here to make friends, we are here to make money!" _________________ We had the stone age, the bronze age, the industrial age and now we are in the age of mass deception and mind control for corporate profit. (The mass media age) |
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