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mneumann99 Samba Member
Joined: May 29, 2023 Posts: 3 Location: Michigan
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Posted: Mon May 29, 2023 10:27 am Post subject: 1980 Westfalia Idle Stabilizer - Cali emissions model |
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Hi everyone,
My mother has a 1980 westy that she has been having trouble get running. She has been battling multiple mechanics who haven’t quite gotten it right. Last fall she had a new (rebuilt) engine installed after she was told hers was blown. When she got the van back, she noticed it idling high once it was warmed up. They told her that it was because of the throttle body. She ordered a replacement and I installed it along with the gasket. This did not solve the issue. I began to dig into this more and found the idle stabilizer that can cause issues on the Cali models.
I saw some others that bypassed this module by plugging the wires into each other. I did this while the engine was cold and the van fired right up and sounded great. My next test was to do it once it was idling high… this is where things went wrong. When I plugged the leads together once the engine was warm and turned it back on the timing was clearly off and the van would hardly run. Shoot I thought, so I tried to undo it and just plug the module back in. No such luck, the engine did not go back to normal - warm or cold.
I am looking for suggestions on what to do next to first - undo my screw up.
And secondly, solve what might be causing the high idle. My 20/20 hindsight clearly shows I should have looked into this more before rolling up my sleeves and getting dirty.
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jlrftype7 Samba Member
Joined: July 24, 2018 Posts: 3576 Location: Chicago
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Posted: Mon May 29, 2023 11:28 am Post subject: Re: 1980 Westfalia Idle Stabilizer - Cali emissions model |
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Grab a can of Electrical Contact Cleaner from a Parts Store or Amazon. Engine off, unplug the Two Connections at the Idle Stabilizer Module. Spray the cleaner on the exposed pins in both the module and those two connectors.
You may have a poor connection previously when you plugged them back in, due to oxide deposits building up over the years.
Report back with how this goes for you. _________________ '68 Westy- my first VW and vehicle/Bus- long gone.- sold it to a traveling Swiss couple....
'67 Type 3 Fastback, my 2nd car- gone
'69 Semi-Auto Stick Shift Beetle-gone
2017 MINI Coopers, our current DDs
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ALIKA T3 Samba Member
Joined: July 30, 2009 Posts: 6349 Location: Honolulu,Hawaii and France
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Posted: Mon May 29, 2023 12:51 pm Post subject: Re: 1980 Westfalia Idle Stabilizer - Cali emissions model |
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Pinch the hoses to the stabilizer valve to rule it out.
There's a mechanical gate inside, that's usually the issue with crud and also the heating element could have failed, not moving the gate properly. _________________ Silicone Steering Boots and 930 Cv boots for sale in the classifieds.
Syncro transmission upgrade parts in the Classifieds.
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http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=416343
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mneumann99 Samba Member
Joined: May 29, 2023 Posts: 3 Location: Michigan
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Posted: Mon May 29, 2023 1:05 pm Post subject: Re: 1980 Westfalia Idle Stabilizer - Cali emissions model |
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I’m not sure this has the hoses/mechanical feature you mentioned? This is an electrical connector that ends up making its way to the distributor. |
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mneumann99 Samba Member
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Posted: Mon May 29, 2023 2:50 pm Post subject: Re: 1980 Westfalia Idle Stabilizer - Cali emissions model |
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I’m not sure this has the hoses/mechanical feature you mentioned? This is an electrical connector that ends up making its way to the distributor. |
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jlrftype7 Samba Member
Joined: July 24, 2018 Posts: 3576 Location: Chicago
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Posted: Tue May 30, 2023 5:58 am Post subject: Re: 1980 Westfalia Idle Stabilizer - Cali emissions model |
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mneumann99 wrote: |
I’m not sure this has the hoses/mechanical feature you mentioned? This is an electrical connector that ends up making its way to the distributor. |
I believe ALIKA T3 is refering to the Aux Air Valve, or maybe the Decel valve at the rear of the engine, if you have one.
If he's talking about pinching off hoses to the Aux Air Valve, be aware that they can be brittle with age, it's much easier to pinch off fresh hoses....
Here's a link to what the Aux Air Valve looks like- using a Samba Ad to show you. The Decel Valve is a disc shaped valve, bolts to to the rear of the engine compartment, with some hoses going to it, if you have one.
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=2568762 _________________ '68 Westy- my first VW and vehicle/Bus- long gone.- sold it to a traveling Swiss couple....
'67 Type 3 Fastback, my 2nd car- gone
'69 Semi-Auto Stick Shift Beetle-gone
2017 MINI Coopers, our current DDs
‘84 Tin Top - Hilga....Auto |
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