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mike boland Samba Member
Joined: February 22, 2004 Posts: 221
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Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2024 12:06 pm Post subject: Front bra? Mask? |
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used have bra on my 1991 Westy with fiberglass bumpers, but over time it got torn up, destroyed.
now lot small rock chips are in entire front...
rather than buy new Bra I was think painting it with like Rhino liner coating.
recall seeing photo of one like that before...any body have photo?
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dabaron Samba Member

Joined: June 21, 2018 Posts: 2745 Location: Philly, mang
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Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2024 12:32 pm Post subject: Re: front bra? mask? |
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you MUST resolve all rust issues before applying a sealing coat that will lock in the moisture and rust. there will be rust where there are chips in the paint from rocks. _________________ 1991 Vanagon GL Camper
i had no idea i wanted to be a mechanic |
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mike boland Samba Member
Joined: February 22, 2004 Posts: 221
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Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2024 2:31 pm Post subject: Re: front bra? mask? |
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| dabaron wrote: |
| you MUST resolve all rust issues before applying a sealing coat that will lock in the moisture and rust. there will be rust where there are chips in the paint from rocks. |
I'm aware that, just looking for ideas
I was thinking sanding it, prime mask with new Front Bra, or maybe apply
black or white ( the VW is white) rhino type liner.
every long didstant trip I have taken even with Bra, always get pocket marked by insects etc. |
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IdahoDoug Samba Member

Joined: June 12, 2010 Posts: 10357 Location: N. Idaho
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Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2024 9:45 pm Post subject: Re: Front bra? Mask? |
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You haven't lived until you have tried cleaning bugs off a rough surface like bedliner. If you want cosmetic looks, repaint and have a 3M Clear Bra applied. If you are a functional solution type, do the bedliner. _________________ 1987 2WD Wolfsburg Vanagon Weekender "Mango", two fully locked 80 Series LandCruisers. 2017 Subaru Outback boxer. 1990 Audi 90 Quattro 20V with rear locking differential, 1990 burgundy parts Vanagon. 1984 Porsche 944, 1993 Toyota LandCruiser, 2002 BMW 325iX, 1982 Toyota Sunrader |
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connorsvw2 Samba Member

Joined: August 16, 2008 Posts: 361 Location: Denver, CO
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Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2024 8:50 am Post subject: Re: Front bra? Mask? |
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2nd on the 3M clear bra. Super tough and no hassles. Love it, but $$. _________________ '85 Westy Wolfsburg camper/2002 2.5 Subaru since 2003.
'85 GTI 1.8L 1-owner 8v-gave up on 9A 2.0L 16v transplant. Keeping her stock!
'99 Passat 1.8T Variant-AKA "The Money Pit". Still limping along...
'09 Subaru Outback XT 5-speed, 245 hp rocket (wife's car) |
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Corwyn  Samba Member

Joined: December 29, 2009 Posts: 2448 Location: Olympia, Washington
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Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2024 12:41 pm Post subject: Re: Front bra? Mask? |
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| connorsvw2 wrote: |
| 2nd on the 3M clear bra. Super tough and no hassles. Love it, but $$. |
I recommend NOT using the 3M masking material. Talk to any RV owner you know and they will tell you it yellows in time and is almost impossible to remove. Line-X makes a product that goes on almost smooth and can be painted over. _________________ '90 White Westy ("White Lightning")
FAS Gen V 2.0
The Annual Baja Rally
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=604813&highlight=baja
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Red Ryder Samba Member

Joined: June 26, 2021 Posts: 1225 Location: PNW — Washington
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Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2024 7:48 am Post subject: Re: Front bra? Mask? |
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For long-lasting results, sand, prep and paint the front clip. Bedliner on the front will look great for one day… _________________ “Most everyone’s mad here. You may have noticed I am not quite all there myself.” — Cheshire Cat, Adventures of Alice in Wonderland
“Scarlett” — 1990 Vanagon Carat Wolfsburg Edition (Tornado Red)
“Nigel” — 1999 Jaguar XK8 convertible (Alpine Green Metallic) |
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bobbyblack  Samba Member

Joined: May 21, 2015 Posts: 4694 Location: United States, Iowa
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Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2024 9:31 am Post subject: Re: Front bra? Mask? |
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I've used a bra on several VWs in my day, including my DD '87 Flash Silver Westy. I'd highly advise against putting another one on after you fix your paint. In my case, every time I put my bra's back on after fixing the paint, it would slowly grind away again until it wore through the paint yet again. They look cool and all, but the grit that gets under them is a disaster and you don't see it until something like you mention (your old one wore to tatters) and you take it off. Just go with multiple layers of your stock or chosen paint and clear (if that is what you do).
-bobby _________________ '87 Westy 'Flossie','86 Westy 'R1','86 tintop GL - Subi2.2 'J2','83.5 stock tintop L 'ZoomBus','74 Karmann Ghia, '63 Notch |
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Ahwahnee Samba Member

Joined: June 05, 2010 Posts: 10305 Location: Mt Lemmon, AZ
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Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2024 9:37 am Post subject: Re: Front bra? Mask? |
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X3... I just accept that every 20 years or so the front apron will get repainted.
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DanHoug Samba Member

Joined: December 05, 2016 Posts: 5919 Location: Bemidji, MN
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Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2024 11:36 am Post subject: Re: Front bra? Mask? |
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| bobbyblack wrote: |
| I've used a bra on several VWs in my day, including my DD '87 Flash Silver Westy. I'd highly advise against putting another one on after you fix your paint. |
that was my experience with a Vanagon bra... it was a really expensive, nice fitting one that beat the crap out of the paint if there was ANY edge that fluttered or shifted about. after i peeked under it a few months after putting it on my thought was, "I thought these were supposed to PROTECT the paint!" _________________ -dan
60% of what you find on the internet is wrong, including this post.
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vanis13 Samba Member

Joined: August 15, 2010 Posts: 4588 Location: ABQ NM USA.... Except when not
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Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2024 11:43 am Post subject: Re: Front bra? Mask? |
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Every van I looked at that had a bra had an unfixed front ding/dent.....that's the only reason to keep a F bra on. _________________ 83.5 Westy with Subaru 2.5, 4 spd manual, center seat, COLD A/C on 134a!, Winter camp heated with an Espar B4 gasoline furnace
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Red Ryder Samba Member

Joined: June 26, 2021 Posts: 1225 Location: PNW — Washington
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Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2024 3:47 pm Post subject: Re: Front bra? Mask? |
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We only install our bra for extended trips. Leaving one on the van full time is asking for heartache…
Since you already have the heartache, you are free to proceed as your wallet dictates. _________________ “Most everyone’s mad here. You may have noticed I am not quite all there myself.” — Cheshire Cat, Adventures of Alice in Wonderland
“Scarlett” — 1990 Vanagon Carat Wolfsburg Edition (Tornado Red)
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mike boland Samba Member
Joined: February 22, 2004 Posts: 221
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Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2024 7:43 pm Post subject: Re: Front bra? Mask? |
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| DanHoug wrote: |
| bobbyblack wrote: |
| I've used a bra on several VWs in my day, including my DD '87 Flash Silver Westy. I'd highly advise against putting another one on after you fix your paint. |
that was my experience with a Vanagon bra... it was a really expensive, nice fitting one that beat the crap out of the paint if there was ANY edge that fluttered or shifted about. after i peeked under it a few months after putting it on my thought was, "I thought these were supposed to PROTECT the paint!" |
thanks for replys..after thinking it over.. I'll just get front resprayed...
maybe next year |
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Love My Westy Samba Member
Joined: August 08, 2007 Posts: 1899
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Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2024 6:03 pm Post subject: Re: Front bra? Mask? |
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| I've been using a bra since new in 1986. Every time I wash the van, I also wash and dry the bra so a clean bra goes on a clean van. My paint looks good, and it's a whole lot better than if I had gathered 37 years of paint chips and the corresponding rust. To each his own. |
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