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The Pilch Samba Member

Joined: December 04, 2013 Posts: 712 Location: Utah
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Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2025 7:37 pm Post subject: Re: Messaged the wrong person, acquired a '61 :-D |
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Well balls n ass I'm pretty sick just in time for the weekend, quite the chest cold so I won't be going out there in the chill. Hope you are all ok, and any of our California people sending our best thoughts.
brass gears wrote: |
So, first off I’ve been following this build since the beginning. The trials and tribulations, quietly lurking in the back ground and you’ve done a Really great job with this. Colour pallete- very nice.
I just wanted to point a small detail about the way the heater channel carpet meets the foot well.
This one from an original unmolested car from the gallery.
Just how the flap sits over the top.
Kind of a minor detail, but if it’s not too late….
Anyways, nice job all round ! |
@brass gears thank you my friend - for your kind words and taking time to be present on my little thread - cheers!
And YES that's a great pic, ALAS I didn't lay mine correctly, need to pull that flap back from under the carpet like in your photo here - hopefully I can rectify that - might be stuck fast!
Thanks again! _________________ '85 Vanagon GL, weekender package, 1.9 wbx named Freddie/ '61 Beetle named Ringo/ '78 Dodge Monaco which is nothing like the Bluesmobile so please don't cast that oily rag upon it. |
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brass gears Samba Member
Joined: October 21, 2013 Posts: 96 Location: Calgary,AB
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Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2025 8:23 pm Post subject: Re: Messaged the wrong person, acquired a '61 :-D |
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So, first off I’ve been following this build since the beginning. The trials and tribulations, quietly lurking in the back ground and you’ve done a Really great job with this. Colour pallete- very nice.
I just wanted to point a small detail about the way the heater channel carpet meets the foot well.
This one from an original unmolested car from the gallery.
Just how the flap sits over the top.
Kind of a minor detail, but if it’s not too late….
Anyways, nice job all round ! _________________ ‘70 transporter
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richparker Samba Member

Joined: November 24, 2011 Posts: 7371 Location: Durango, CO
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The Pilch Samba Member

Joined: December 04, 2013 Posts: 712 Location: Utah
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Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2025 7:01 pm Post subject: Re: Messaged the wrong person, acquired a '61 :-D |
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richparker wrote: |
Carpet looks great! I’m about to install speaker kick panels and recarpet that area. Thanks for the inspiration. |
You bet Rich! Can't wait to see pics of what you achieve! _________________ '85 Vanagon GL, weekender package, 1.9 wbx named Freddie/ '61 Beetle named Ringo/ '78 Dodge Monaco which is nothing like the Bluesmobile so please don't cast that oily rag upon it. |
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The Pilch Samba Member

Joined: December 04, 2013 Posts: 712 Location: Utah
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Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2025 3:36 pm Post subject: Re: Messaged the wrong person, acquired a '61 :-D |
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While the propane afterburner was blasting, I hung the front section of carpet up to warm it a little, as it was all bent and buckled from being stuffed in the TMI box..
I placed the main carpet in the car and tucked it how it should be. No glue, because I have to pull it up soon, to install a new ebrake boot - the one I have is cack. Anyways, the TMI Deluxe carpet kit is nice...not amazing, a bit thin if I'm honest, and certainly not a very good fit with regards to curves and placement of vent holes/shifter etc, as you can see here in the pics, it's not what I would expect for the money and there's a lot of fiddling about needed. Also patience which I don't have much of these days.
Anyways, here it is so far without being glued down...
Cheers fellas! _________________ '85 Vanagon GL, weekender package, 1.9 wbx named Freddie/ '61 Beetle named Ringo/ '78 Dodge Monaco which is nothing like the Bluesmobile so please don't cast that oily rag upon it. |
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The Pilch Samba Member

Joined: December 04, 2013 Posts: 712 Location: Utah
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Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2025 3:24 pm Post subject: Re: Messaged the wrong person, acquired a '61 :-D |
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It was cold today - snowing on and off and abrisk breeze, so I could only stand it - even with a propane heater going - for almost 3 hrs.
In that time, after test fitting the kick panel pieces, more masking ensued - this is where the carpet edge is stuck down...
...a little glue along the heater channel and around the very top "bound" section so it tucks up in that recess, and a strip of glue along the floor to tuck it in tight...
Same on the other side, and some tape to help that glue bond firm...
The carpet piece for the front section requires a hole to be punched right about here...
...for the "brights" switch that my car has.
At Harbor Fright, there's a grommet punch kit for about $5, which I already had, so I used the punch to make the hole...
then I glued the carpet in place, along the top edge, around the brights switch, and a little along the width of the carpet about half way up...
_________________ '85 Vanagon GL, weekender package, 1.9 wbx named Freddie/ '61 Beetle named Ringo/ '78 Dodge Monaco which is nothing like the Bluesmobile so please don't cast that oily rag upon it. |
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The Pilch Samba Member

Joined: December 04, 2013 Posts: 712 Location: Utah
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Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2025 9:30 am Post subject: Re: Messaged the wrong person, acquired a '61 :-D |
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tcoop1100 wrote: |
Hello Gary-
I took a couple of photos of my panels for you. I believe the carpets are original to the car. No wood. Just glued to the channels. I suspect your new ones are a lot stiffer than my old ones. Hope this helps.
Hauoli Makahiki Hou! to you and the Mrs in 2025. |
Mate, happy new year to you and the family!!
Thank you so much for uploading these pics - that helps a lot!
SO after work yesterday I cut the vent hole out of the kick panel carpet...
...but with it in place I thought it looked a bit rough what with a slightly "unfinished" vent showing through...
So I did the old trick of masking the area off..
...and hitting it with matt black, which hides a lot...
...as you can see here, ones' eye is not drawn to the unfinished ill fitting gap in the carpet...
The devil is in the details I guess. But I'd call that a win.
While that dries, I grabbed a door sill trim piece from a buddies 67 to see if this is something I want on mine...
I can make a pair of these at work with our brake, maybe stainless or brushed.
More today, thanks guys. _________________ '85 Vanagon GL, weekender package, 1.9 wbx named Freddie/ '61 Beetle named Ringo/ '78 Dodge Monaco which is nothing like the Bluesmobile so please don't cast that oily rag upon it. |
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tcoop1100 Samba Member

Joined: August 12, 2004 Posts: 228 Location: Hilo, Moku O Keawe, Moana Pakipika
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Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2025 2:13 pm Post subject: Re: Messaged the wrong person, acquired a '61 :-D |
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Hello Gary-
I took a couple of photos of my panels for you. I believe the carpets are original to the car. No wood. Just glued to the channels. I suspect your new ones are a lot stiffer than my old ones. Hope this helps.
Wanna come to Hawaii and fix my headliner when you are done with your car?
Ha!
Hauoli Makahiki Hou! to you and the Mrs in 2025. _________________ Aloha,
Tim
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The Pilch Samba Member

Joined: December 04, 2013 Posts: 712 Location: Utah
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Posted: Tue Dec 31, 2024 3:41 pm Post subject: Re: Messaged the wrong person, acquired a '61 :-D |
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I did indeed brave the cold, got the propane heater going and laid some more sound insulation in the floors...
I also laid the two "heater-channel pieces" of carpet. Contrary to my distain of the 3M Super90 spray glue, being that for a headliner, it sprays in every direction BUT the one you want and is generally very messy, I fully endorse said adhesive for carpets, as the mess doesn't really matter down here on the floor...
I also test fitted the center/rear piece of carpet, and of course, it's not the best fit (TMI from JBugs) so a little "fannying around" will be needed to get it sitting flush...
Also, I need a new ebrake gaitor, because the collar of the gaitor it sits UNDER the carpet, and also this one is so stiff and brittle this interior deserves better...So I can't lay this piece of carpet yet anyways...
I test fitted the kick panel pieces, and I have a question for you all...
Would I punch out the vent hole, and glue it like this...
OR
Would I try and relief cut the carpet and glue it into this recess to make it look more "wrapped" in carpet?
Show me yours. Is there a wooden panel supposed to go there?
For now, cheers everyone and Happy New Year! Mr and Mrs ThePilch xxx _________________ '85 Vanagon GL, weekender package, 1.9 wbx named Freddie/ '61 Beetle named Ringo/ '78 Dodge Monaco which is nothing like the Bluesmobile so please don't cast that oily rag upon it. |
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The Pilch Samba Member

Joined: December 04, 2013 Posts: 712 Location: Utah
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Posted: Tue Dec 31, 2024 11:21 am Post subject: Re: Messaged the wrong person, acquired a '61 :-D |
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sportin-wood wrote: |
Interior is looking RAD Mr. Pilch!! Enjoying your perserverance and skills. Keep it up and don't let the bad moments get you down buddy! |
Ahh thanks mate I appreciate that!
I'm going out there in a minute to continue, it's cold today though so not sure how long my old-ass-knee can stand the chill.
HAPPY NEW YEAR TO YOU ALL! BE SAFE AND STAY DUBBIN!! _________________ '85 Vanagon GL, weekender package, 1.9 wbx named Freddie/ '61 Beetle named Ringo/ '78 Dodge Monaco which is nothing like the Bluesmobile so please don't cast that oily rag upon it. |
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sportin-wood Samba Member

Joined: September 12, 2010 Posts: 2164 Location: Texas
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Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2024 7:38 pm Post subject: Re: Messaged the wrong person, acquired a '61 :-D |
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Interior is looking RAD Mr. Pilch!! Enjoying your perserverance and skills. Keep it up and don't let the bad moments get you down buddy! _________________ .
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"Relax, all right? My old man is a television repairman. He's got this ultimate set of tools. I can fix it." --- Jeff Spicoli |
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The Pilch Samba Member

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Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2024 6:31 pm Post subject: Re: Messaged the wrong person, acquired a '61 :-D |
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Today, although from the pics I didn't do much, was very enjoyable. I fixed some of the bagginess in the headliner and also some of the glue that let go, I reglued...
I am very pleased how the carpet and headliner in the rear parcel area line up...
I found that my interior light lens is broken - my friend Dave has one for ten bucks, I'll take it!!
Then I wondered should I add an ashtray in the rear door card?
Well, yes, I shall, after polishing it up real good first...
Then I went to Lowes to get some more Aluminum Peel N Seal...holy cow it's $20 a roll now! That crap used to be $6.99!!!! Anyways, I added some more Peel N Seal sound deadener and also began fitting some of the carpet pieces...
I am pleased with progress today.
Cheers!! _________________ '85 Vanagon GL, weekender package, 1.9 wbx named Freddie/ '61 Beetle named Ringo/ '78 Dodge Monaco which is nothing like the Bluesmobile so please don't cast that oily rag upon it. |
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The Pilch Samba Member

Joined: December 04, 2013 Posts: 712 Location: Utah
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Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2024 9:52 am Post subject: Re: Messaged the wrong person, acquired a '61 :-D |
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67rustavenger wrote: |
Fantastic work there. I really like the way the tweed fabric vs the vinyl fits the roof line.
That gas holder is cool as F. What a great gift from a friend.
Have a Happy New Year Gary. |
Thanks so much and you too!! I'm going back out there right now to fix those baggies...pics to follow! _________________ '85 Vanagon GL, weekender package, 1.9 wbx named Freddie/ '61 Beetle named Ringo/ '78 Dodge Monaco which is nothing like the Bluesmobile so please don't cast that oily rag upon it. |
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Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2024 9:45 am Post subject: Re: Messaged the wrong person, acquired a '61 :-D |
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Fantastic work there. I really like the way the tweed fabric vs the vinyl fits the roof line.
That gas holder is cool as F. What a great gift from a friend.
Have a Happy New Year Gary. _________________ I have learned over the years.
Cheap parts are gonna disappoint you.
Buy Once, Cry Once!
There's never enough time to do it right the first time. But there's always enough time to do it thrice.
GFY's Xevin and VW_Jimbo! |
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The Pilch Samba Member

Joined: December 04, 2013 Posts: 712 Location: Utah
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Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2024 8:22 pm Post subject: Re: Messaged the wrong person, acquired a '61 :-D |
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Some of this happened...
I am going back in and pulling the side window areas tighter, to get rid of that bagginess, but otherwise I'd call that a win.
For Christmas, I was given a fantastic gas cap holder - hand made no less....by Lando, what a gent! Lando is my wifes daughters bf, and as well as being a top guy he has a bay window bus so I will endeavor to get him on the samba regularly - that was a nice gift, hand made stuff means so much more!
Myself and Clyde have been trying to get the doors built up.
The CIP1 German window kit is EXCELLENT and I highly recommend it, none of that JBugs crap....Clyde has built up a lot of doors and said this kit goes in amazing - so there's a recommendation for you, CIP1 German Quality stuff is GOOD!
Vent windows are perfect but the main glass just will not go in with all the new felts. It seems about 1/8-1/4" too big. New felts are lush and really nice, but because they are new, it's causing issues getting the main glass in.
Our local guru says to ream out the new felt channels hard, really give them some abuse, but the thing with that is the glass is still absolutely too big....so here's my festive question to you guys...
Have any of you shaved glass down, maybe by 1/4 inch? Success? Fails? Other ideas?
Lots of love to you all, and a Happy Nude Rear!
Mr and Mrs The Pilch _________________ '85 Vanagon GL, weekender package, 1.9 wbx named Freddie/ '61 Beetle named Ringo/ '78 Dodge Monaco which is nothing like the Bluesmobile so please don't cast that oily rag upon it. |
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The Pilch Samba Member

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Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2024 8:18 pm Post subject: Re: Messaged the wrong person, acquired a '61 :-D |
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Sun Devil Brain wrote: |
Strong Work as always Pilchinator. That's a bummer on the smudge.
Try pouring a beer on your knee, that might help.
Enjoy the holiday Brutha! |
You too my dude!! _________________ '85 Vanagon GL, weekender package, 1.9 wbx named Freddie/ '61 Beetle named Ringo/ '78 Dodge Monaco which is nothing like the Bluesmobile so please don't cast that oily rag upon it. |
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Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2024 5:54 am Post subject: Re: Messaged the wrong person, acquired a '61 :-D |
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Strong Work as always Pilchinator. That's a bummer on the smudge.
Try pouring a beer on your knee, that might help.
Enjoy the holiday Brutha! |
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The Pilch Samba Member

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Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2024 5:22 pm Post subject: Re: Messaged the wrong person, acquired a '61 :-D |
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Thank you Tom. I’m taking every step to brace my knee including doing nothing but as you know, I have trouble doing nothing a lot. Thanks mate.
I will look into those cleaning products as well. Fantastic! _________________ '85 Vanagon GL, weekender package, 1.9 wbx named Freddie/ '61 Beetle named Ringo/ '78 Dodge Monaco which is nothing like the Bluesmobile so please don't cast that oily rag upon it. |
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Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2024 5:11 pm Post subject: Re: Messaged the wrong person, acquired a '61 :-D |
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The Pilch wrote: |
So, I have a torn meniscus in my knee, had it about 4 weeks now and being inside the car is actually agony. |
Sorry to hear this Gary. Been there, done that. I waited too long and the tear became too substantial to repair. Meniscus had to be removed. Dr. advised me that I would likely develop arthritis in that knee sooner. He was right. Be advised. In the meantime ... generic Vicodin will probably help you feel well enough to do something foolish. Resist the urge.
The Pilch wrote: |
And looky what we have here, a darned dirt spot on the windlace that should be a rubber beading ... Now there's a smudge that's always going to be there...
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Not necessarily ...
Try Folex or OxiClean MaxForce.
https://folexcompany.com/pro-carpet-spot-remover/
https://www.oxiclean.com/en/products/stain-fighters/oxiclean-max-force-spray
Was the tweed treated with a fabric protector? If not, Scotchgard makes several products that might help. This one has a UV filter that helps prevent fading/yellowing:
https://www.scotchgard.com/3M/en_US/p/d/b10205009/ _________________ Tom
"Following distance is proportional to IQ."
"If you don't do it this year, you'll be one year older when you do." Warren Miller
"Research is what I'm doing when I don't know what I'm doing." Wernher von Braun
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