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Larry Shannon Samba Member
Joined: August 07, 2024 Posts: 1 Location: Pennsylvania
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Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2024 9:31 am Post subject: 1965 1200cc Distributor help. |
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| I need to replace the distributor on my stock 1965 vw beetle with a 1200cc 40 HP motor. It has been converted to 12 volts. The Dist is a vacuum advance. I am an old man and having some fun but I need to know what distributor to order. I have a new 30 Pict-1 carb on if that matters. Can I use a carb with centrifugal advance or do I need to keep the vacuum kind? If you can tell me what to order that would be appreciated.Thanks all. |
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my3bugs Samba Member
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indianpeaksjoe  Samba Member

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KTPhil  Samba Member

Joined: April 06, 2006 Posts: 36234 Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2024 9:57 am Post subject: Re: 1965 1200cc Distributor help. |
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A stock 1200 likes the stock vacuum distributor. Good drivability and economy, no flat spots.
They originally had 28 carbs. You may need some careful rejetting and adjusting for the 30, but it can work well. I'll leave it to glutamoto to advise if the vacuum ports of the 28 and 30 give the same draw. Is there a tag or stamp on the carb base? _________________ Current Fleet:
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KingAir42 Samba Member

Joined: May 24, 2002 Posts: 626 Location: Bakersfield California
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Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2024 10:55 am Post subject: Re: 1965 1200cc Distributor help. |
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This place has all the original parts you need for your distributor. I am a happy customer. https://www.vwnos.com/ _________________ A stitch in time saves nine |
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heimlich  VWNOS.com

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Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2024 2:27 pm Post subject: Re: 1965 1200cc Distributor help. |
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If you have the stock 40HP distributor it would not work well with the 30 PICT carburetor. You need a 28 PICT style. Would you share a picture of the distributor? _________________ www.vwnos.com [email protected]
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glutamodo  The Android

Joined: July 13, 2004 Posts: 26593 Location: Douglas, WY
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KingAir42 Samba Member

Joined: May 24, 2002 Posts: 626 Location: Bakersfield California
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Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2024 11:38 pm Post subject: Re: 1965 1200cc Distributor help. |
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| Yeah, the 30PICT-1 does just fine with any of the mid 60s vacuum-only distributors. As far as reproductions go, the only time issues were found with one such was EMPI branded carburetors, and a very long time ago I talked about them here: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=278191 |
You mentioned you preferred the roll pin over the solid pin. How does the roll pin work compared to the other? _________________ A stitch in time saves nine |
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glutamodo  The Android

Joined: July 13, 2004 Posts: 26593 Location: Douglas, WY
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Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2024 10:25 pm Post subject: Re: 1965 1200cc Distributor help. |
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| KingAir42 wrote: |
You mentioned you preferred the roll pin over the solid pin. How does the roll pin work compared to the other? |
You mean the limit pin for the fast idle cam? Well DVG in Germany (the company that made them for VW) went to using such for factory carbs in the PICT-3 era. but it was a much bigger pin.
The stock limit pins on the PICT/PICT-1/PICT-2 carbs was just a metal rod shoved in a hole and they often wallowed out. With a roll pin you have more dynamic tension than a solid rod. Maybe I'm wrong in thinking that, but VW, via DVG went that route in the early 70s, and then Mexican Pierburg-BOCAR (actually a distant cousin of DVG) went that way in the 70s on their reproduction 30PICT-1 carb. I think it's a better idea.
But this is off-topic as far as matching up with distributors. _________________ Andy T.
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KingAir42 Samba Member

Joined: May 24, 2002 Posts: 626 Location: Bakersfield California
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Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2024 11:32 pm Post subject: Re: 1965 1200cc Distributor help. |
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Yeah, that’s what I was asking about. Thanks for the explanation. _________________ A stitch in time saves nine |
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tasb The Distributor Distributor
Joined: April 27, 2002 Posts: 6862 Location: Pentwater, Michigan
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Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2024 8:44 am Post subject: Re: 1965 1200cc Distributor help. |
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From one old guy to another:
Bosch replaced it's large body cast iron distributors in 1964 so the original 40 hp distributors were aluminum bodies with the condenser mounted outside the body with a stamped part number not a badge.
The part numbers for 1965 were ZV/JU 4 R 3 and 111 905 205 N. These are the same distributor because midway through 1965 Bosch changed their part numbering system. These distributors had a small saucer shaped vacuum canister which mated to 28 PICT series carburetors.
Now since you are moving over to a 30 PICT Solex carburetor you will also need to change your distributor choice since the carburetor and vacuum advance only distributor need to be a matched vacuum signal pairing.
Your vacuum only distributor choices are: 113 905 205 K, 113 905 205 M, 113 905 205 T. These vacuum only distributors use larger flatter vacuum canisters but very few people would recognize them as incorrect for 1965.
Cores for these are readily available but the purchasers should verify that the vacuum canister is working correctly before buying. i'm not a fan of either of the two major restorers here, so plan on doing your own distributor rebuild in my opinion.
You can choose to run a mechanical only advance distributor since their function does not depend upon your carburetor. They technically would not be correct for 1965 but with the omnipresent proliferation of the 009 distributor very few would recognize this or likely even care.
Distributors do not care what voltage is applied to them. _________________ Roads Scholar
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