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PostPosted: Thu Nov 28, 2024 12:21 pm    Post subject: Re: 65 European Standard (My Patina Pal) Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 28, 2024 12:56 pm    Post subject: Re: 65 European Standard (My Patina Pal) Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 28, 2024 1:59 pm    Post subject: Re: 65 European Standard (My Patina Pal) Reply with quote

Im on mission to use up all my vintage Empi stuff on this one. Haha


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 28, 2024 2:40 pm    Post subject: Re: 65 European Standard (My Patina Pal) Reply with quote

Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours. One of the many things I am thankful for today is the many hours I have spent enjoying your build! Keep up the great work! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 28, 2024 2:44 pm    Post subject: Re: 65 European Standard (My Patina Pal) Reply with quote

^^^Thanks So Much for that

I’m very thankful you’re enjoying it. Makes it all worth it.

Have a fantastic day my Friend.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 28, 2024 5:04 pm    Post subject: Re: 65 European Standard (My Patina Pal) Reply with quote

Vintage Scat sticker …. Not sure where to put it yet.


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New Moon Eyes Magnet.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 28, 2024 5:10 pm    Post subject: Re: 65 European Standard (My Patina Pal) Reply with quote

Saving the old brake parts.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 28, 2024 5:51 pm    Post subject: Re: 65 European Standard (My Patina Pal) Reply with quote

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Yep…. It’s pretty neat.


I found it to be kinda tricky to get out.

I tried to pull the breast tin to make it easy but the downdraft tube runs through it and looked everywhere for my tool to remove the filler neck with no luck.

I did notice some interesting tin at the heat riser tube to the muffler.

This pulley tin looked odd to me as well.

I can honestly say I know very little about this application, it’s definitely interesting.


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Those 36HP fresh air engine have a few unique features. 7.2 compression, special intake manifold with long exhaust crossover tubes and breast plate to reach them. Little tapped ears on the bottom of the engine case for fastening engine tin. Oil is drained by the strainer plate instead of boss on the case. The boss is still there but not drilled and tapped for a drain plug. Just like my 65 111, there should be no seat tracks, only the two studs per seat with a claw and wingnut to hold them down.
And a FYI to all concerned, the last "standard" was 1964, in 1965 they are called 1200"A"!
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 28, 2024 7:24 pm    Post subject: Re: 65 European Standard (My Patina Pal) Reply with quote

^^^ so many fun things about this Kar. It’s why I love it so much. Most folks know this style as a Standard. 1200 A was the model . Correct? Specifically a type 111 Standard. I know of a 67 standard rag top beetle as well. There are countless threads and internet searches resulting in this Kar and later cars being a standard. However with that said I do not claim definitive understanding of the subject in its entirety. The collector I got from called it a standard, the World Wide Web calls it’s a standard. I definitely do not need to be rite, but I don’t feel wrong. I hear and respect your interpretation, maybe a few more folks can pop in with additional information.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 28, 2024 8:40 pm    Post subject: Re: 65 European Standard (My Patina Pal) Reply with quote

I was taught to always use anti seizes on the adjusters as well where the brake pads sit on the raised sections on the backing plate.
You will see in one photo that I also like to use it on the speedo cable where it lives in the spindle, they can be a pain to remove when the cables go out. They seem to fail prematurely these days.
One little trick I like to use for the springs are these wire crimping, cutting and stripping pliers. It makes a perfect grab without damaging the spring itself.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 28, 2024 11:11 pm    Post subject: Re: 65 European Standard (My Patina Pal) Reply with quote

I witnessed, the mechanic in the adjacent bay to mine, loose a fingernail when one of the springs slipped during a similar removal procedure. The pliers failed and the spring went flying across the room, along with his fingernail! Really gross to find.

I was taught to leave the retaining pins out. Assemble the one shoe into the wheel cylinder. Add the top spring, then attach the second shoe to the top spring, then pivot the shoe into the bottom of the wheel cylinder groove, sliding it up and into place. With the top spring in both shoes and the shoes in the wheel cylinder pistons, add the bottom spring. Set one shoe into the adjuster and rotate it away from the backing plate. Then install the other shoe by pulling it over and dropping it into the adjuster. Once in place push each shoe, one at a time against the backing plate and secure them with the retainers.

No chance of a spring getting loose or ripping anything from one’s body!

Everyone has their own way. I get that. But that finger nail haunts me! It was just a gross event. Just be safe!

Keep up the good work!
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 28, 2024 11:17 pm    Post subject: Re: 65 European Standard (My Patina Pal) Reply with quote

^^^ That way is the best for sure.

Thats the only way we did it when I was a tech, to take them apart as well…. A lot of the time I would assemble everything rite there on the bench when the backing plate was off , just as you described.
Your way is definitely safer …. And easier honestly. Guess I just enjoyed the challenge. Laughing

Thanks for adding some good and safer advice…

And I appreciate you following along.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 29, 2024 8:27 am    Post subject: Re: 65 European Standard (My Patina Pal) Reply with quote

Some fun pix from the sales Brochure of the 1200 A Standards available.

A good link to read up on some of the oddities on them.

https://www.classiccult.com/blog/vw-1200a-1965-30hp-brochure.html


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 29, 2024 10:30 am    Post subject: Re: 65 European Standard (My Patina Pal) Reply with quote

WrennMetallWerks wrote:
Some fun pix from the sales Brochure of the 1200 A Standards available.

A good link to read up on some of the oddities on them.

https://www.classiccult.com/blog/vw-1200a-1965-30hp-brochure.html


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Thanks for the pictures. Now that you proved it, did I know I was right. BTW the 1200"A" Custom is also considered a 1200"A". These are rare cars these days. Restoring to original would be the way to go.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 29, 2024 10:37 am    Post subject: Re: 65 European Standard (My Patina Pal) Reply with quote

^^^ You are probably super Fun at parties ^^^ Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 29, 2024 12:06 pm    Post subject: Re: 65 European Standard (My Patina Pal) Reply with quote

Hope everyone had wonderful Thanksgiving….. it’s a beautiful far day… there is so much to he Grateful for!!!

Time to harvest some more of the original parts from the suspension. I need to grab the ball bearing races off the spindles and then snag the rear brake compartments. I think I will take this stater off also and see if it will come to life.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 29, 2024 1:52 pm    Post subject: Re: 65 European Standard (My Patina Pal) Reply with quote

Hope everyone had wonderful Thanksgiving….. it’s a beautiful far day… there is so much to he Grateful for!!!

Time to harvest some more of the original parts from the suspension. I need to grab the ball bearing races off the spindles and then snag the rear brake compartments. I think I will take this stater off also and see if it will come to life.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 29, 2024 4:03 pm    Post subject: Re: 65 European Standard (My Patina Pal) Reply with quote

Dirty but rewarding werk.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 29, 2024 4:05 pm    Post subject: Re: 65 European Standard (My Patina Pal) Reply with quote

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