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PostPosted: Sun Feb 16, 2025 11:55 pm    Post subject: Re: 52 panel repair from Austria Reply with quote

Ha, jetzt wiss mas, du wohnst in der garage, die nudeln haben dich verraten!
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 16, 2025 3:35 pm    Post subject: Re: 52 panel repair from Austria Reply with quote

Huetti_1989 wrote:
The work from today:

The seal channel above the cargodoor looks like more work then i expected...

I build a hammer form for the litle sills, difficult to take a measure from that old bent parts.
-Christian


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Very impressive metalwork on those little indentations/notches in that seal channel. What a lucky Barndoor, for all the care and attention it gets.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 16, 2025 1:40 pm    Post subject: Re: 52 panel repair from Austria Reply with quote

Nice work. Big improvement over the replacement part.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 16, 2025 12:49 pm    Post subject: Re: 52 panel repair from Austria Reply with quote

This sunday was a long one!!

I finally finished the sealchannel above the cargo doors and spotweld it to the gainguttter.
(You can see the compartment of the bbt part, my repro and the original)
After ablot of measurements and cargo doors in and out ~ 20 times i also weld the inner roofgutter reinforcement bach to it's place.

Put the outer skins from the cargo doors temporarily back tobplace to check the gaps again.

Not 100% but close enough for now!

So, now. Prost, and Mahlzeit.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2025 3:50 pm    Post subject: Re: 52 panel repair from Austria Reply with quote

The work from today:

The seal channel above the cargodoor looks like more work then i expected...

I build a hammer form for the litle sills, difficult to take a measure from that old bent parts.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2025 2:51 pm    Post subject: Re: 52 panel repair from Austria Reply with quote

splitface wrote:
insane dedication and quality work
keep up !


Ok, thank you man! So i keep working on this one:

A lot of measurements later .......
-Weld the d-pillar back in place
-weld the c pillar back in place
-Build the inner frame for the roofgutter
-start the work on the seal channel above the cargo doors because later i am not able anymore to spotweld that.
(The bbt part are way off to far for me)

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2025 3:05 am    Post subject: Re: 52 panel repair from Austria Reply with quote

insane dedication and quality work
keep up !
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 13, 2025 2:24 pm    Post subject: Re: 52 panel repair from Austria Reply with quote

Finished the new tool for the metal bending machine.
Now i am able to bend at 9mm the next step.
With this i make the inner raingutter panels.

I also try to put now with the side off to install the parcel tray in one piece but its still impossible, so it really looks like i have to weld the parts together in the car.

-Christian
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 12, 2025 2:30 pm    Post subject: Re: 52 panel repair from Austria Reply with quote

Finaly welded the raingutter in the right place.

For the inner reinforcement i need to finally build some new tools for my metal folder!

-Christian
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2025 2:23 pm    Post subject: Re: 52 panel repair from Austria Reply with quote

Some more work on the roofgutter, the most biggest part i ever made!!


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Not easy to get that thing straight.
Then i started to weld it to the car with a lot of measuring for sure as always...

-Christian
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 09, 2025 12:50 pm    Post subject: Re: 52 panel repair from Austria Reply with quote

Today i not made many hours in the workshop because a big hiking tour, but after that i done som chilling work on the roofgutter.

Fabricated the front part where the roofgutter make the "bent" inwards and get smaller and weld it to the next piece, for sure the longest panel i fabricate for now...

-Christian

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 08, 2025 1:33 pm    Post subject: Re: 52 panel repair from Austria Reply with quote

No big news today, i cut out more of the damaged roof in the rear and the front and start to fit the new raingutter to the remains of the lower section where i done some reshaping of that by the way.
I use some nos parts for reference.

-Christian
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My 1954 Deutsche Bundespost:
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2025 3:09 pm    Post subject: Re: 52 panel repair from Austria Reply with quote

Xavw wrote:
Very nice work, i follow your post with interest bécause its rare to see restauration where all detail and spécification are conserved.especialy on a 52 model..
I saw you are adjusting A pillar. So are you modify it?
i know pré 52 pillar have à différent shape on the Windows section.?
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Hy man. I am a little proud that you make your first post here in my thread =)

I here about that before and i compared them, looks like my 52 have that "later" pillar:

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Today was a long one, a little of bending on that a-pillar, b-pillar... a LOT!!

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Then some reshaping of the sidewall:

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For fun in the evening i done some work on the shelf-made raingutter...


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-Christian
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2025 10:08 am    Post subject: Re: 52 panel repair from Austria Reply with quote

Very nice work, i follow your post with interest bécause its rare to see restauration where all detail and spécification are conserved.especialy on a 52 model..
I saw you are adjusting A pillar. So are you modify it?
i know pré 52 pillar have à différent shape on the Windows section.?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2025 2:55 pm    Post subject: Re: 52 panel repair from Austria Reply with quote

Today i done some reshaping if the roof...how terrible bent!

And i try to fabricate a rain gutter and put the pillar in place...

-Christian


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My 1952 Panel:
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My 1954 Deutsche Bundespost:
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My 1961 SO34:
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 05, 2025 2:37 pm    Post subject: Re: 52 panel repair from Austria Reply with quote

sgellis wrote:
Huetti_1989 wrote:

I found a remaining of the third layer of strengthening metal inside the inner and outer rocker.


Interesting. I thought that started in 53.

Looks like things are going well . Are you building a jig to assemble the right wall? I plan to build a jig for my left wall so i can restore the panels and then add the ribs while insuring correct profile. Then I can install the completed wall on the bus.


Good idea with the jig!

For now i think i can fabricate the right shape with the templates i can take feom my other splits, we will see!

But today i do some work o the a pillar, sand off the green and add some filler where I maybe can't reach it later.
Put that pillar in the car and out very often to make it fit, I need to overthink that corner...

I am very happy about that kf c pillar, it have the right flat barndoor sill!

So not much process seen here, only a lot of measure and thinking..

-Christian

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My 1954 Deutsche Bundespost:
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My 1961 SO34:
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2025 6:47 pm    Post subject: Re: 52 panel repair from Austria Reply with quote

Huetti_1989 wrote:

I found a remaining of the third layer of strengthening metal inside the inner and outer rocker.


Interesting. I thought that started in 53.

Looks like things are going well . Are you building a jig to assemble the right wall? I plan to build a jig for my left wall so i can restore the panels and then add the ribs while insuring correct profile. Then I can install the completed wall on the bus.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 03, 2025 3:06 pm    Post subject: Re: 52 panel repair from Austria Reply with quote

Today i weld the nos front and nos middle outrigger and the inner rocker to the right place.

I found a remaining of the third layer of strengthening metal inside the inner and outer rocker.

I testfit the nos outer rocker and a later c pillar.

I checked the measurements wirh my 67 Sparsamba, amazing good so far... for now only the alignment of the b-Pillar makes me some headache...

Put the door out again, with the A-pillar for next steps.

-Christian


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My 1952 Panel:
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My 1954 Deutsche Bundespost:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=621802
My 1961 SO34:
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 02, 2025 2:06 pm    Post subject: Re: 52 panel repair from Austria Reply with quote

Thanks for all the good input!

That sounds legitimate!
So I don't add more holes!

I changed the very rear right outrigger with a KF panel.
For the middle one i used a later nos part i delete the sill and add a hole,
Some repair on the frame behind, i must take care of that frame later, hard for me to go one little step after the next.

-Christian

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My 1952 Panel:
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=797388
My 1954 Deutsche Bundespost:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=621802
My 1961 SO34:
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2025 4:53 am    Post subject: Re: 52 panel repair from Austria Reply with quote

I guess it has something to do with how barndoor buses didn't have a third layer of strengthening metal inside the inner and outer rocker. that middle plate would have trapped water inside the inner rocker portion. only the outer rocker had the drain dimples.
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