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jberger Samba Member
Joined: November 17, 2003 Posts: 2476
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Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2004 12:10 pm Post subject: |
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Ah! Thanks for the explanation. |
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Bob D. Samba Member
Joined: September 11, 2003 Posts: 613 Location: Chicago, IL
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Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2004 6:16 am Post subject: |
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Thanks much to everybody for the good advice on this thread.
After three days of virtually squeak free driving, I am with cautious optimism declaring my problem solved.
I don't know whether to be happy that the solution to my problem was so simple, or feel stupid because I didn't try the simple stuff before assuming the worst. In any case, I wanted to post my experience here to hopefully help somebody else out in the future.
In my case, the solution to the squealing was to specifically bed-in the new brake pads. Randy's post above asking whether I was "babying" the new brakes too much got me to thinking. To make a long story short, I used some of the brake bed-in procedures described in these two links:
http://www.tirerack.com/brakes/tech/pad_rotor_bedin_procedures.html
http://www.kitcarbooks.com/brakepads.html
What seemed to be most effective was a dozen consecutive moderate-to- firm stops from 40 MPH down to near zero, with 1/4 mile between each stop.
At first I was worried that this was a temporary solution, but after three days, 100 mi. in various traffic conditions and several heat cycles for the brakes, I am hopeful that the bed-in effort has cured the squealing. This may or may not work for others depending on the specific pads, roters and other variables, but IMHO is certainly worth a try.
Thanks again for all the great suggestions. _________________ 1978 7-Passenger, 37K miles
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ratwell Samba Member
Joined: April 26, 2003 Posts: 8717 Location: Victoria, BC
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Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2004 8:11 am Post subject: |
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Excellent. Sometimes the brakes and/or vibrating threads never seem to conclude.
When I put on my new pads (Pagid) I couldn't find the exact break-in procedure for that brand so I borrowed a technique. I stomped hard on the brakes from 20 mph, then 40 mph, then 60 mph twice. This was complementary to the instructions that came with the rotor which said, "Advise a short running in period for new discs (about 200 Km); during this period a short, smooth braking action should be used so that the brake pad surfaces can adapt to the disc. Over sharp or heavy braking action could cause the brake pad friction material and disc to overheat and in time this would compromise the braking system as a whole and its performance".
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=56035&highlight=bed+brakes
Previously I only thought this was required for new rotors but from your post I understand now this may not the case and may in fact be more important. _________________ '78 Westfalia CDN
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steponmebbbboom Samba Member
Joined: May 01, 2004 Posts: 6390
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Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2004 9:59 am Post subject: |
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jberger wrote: |
Ah! Thanks for the explanation. |
OK, well what I was trying to say was that because of the braiding in the hose, it would not inflate while applying the brakes and your braking pressure would not be diminished even if the inside layer was deteriorated. Bad brake hoses will not cause a low pedal. |
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Duncwarw Samba Member
Joined: August 25, 2003 Posts: 3094
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Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2004 7:00 pm Post subject: |
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For what it's worth, I remember reading a long time ago that the higher quality brake materials are "harder" and therefore more resonant.
Just like a previous poster said. If you don't put the goop on the back to limit the transfer of the vibration, the rock-hard pads will want to be heard. |
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