Looking for factory COLOR '62 wiring diagram

[swharris]

Despite what others have told me, '62 is not like '63 and later(slight differences). I can't find a good, clear factory color diagram for the 1962 bus. Can anyone post a link? The only one I can find here is in B&W(National Automotive Service).

[Eric&Barb]

If you have a bus without the E-flasher system, then use the 1961 wiring diagram. That will be close enough, and why VW did not issue a wiring diagram for just 1962 model year and thru most of the first half of the 1963 model year (mid DEC1962) when the E-flasher system was introduced.
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[swharris]

[EverettB]

Your knob is correct as 62-63 don't have a red knob or any lighting in the knob itself.

6 wouldn't have the dash light above the wiper switch though so that would be a slight difference.
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[70bus]

There was a discussion about the knob colors in one of the many flsaher/t-s posts somewhere. Black in first models with hazards.
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=623421&highlight=hazard+knob

Please tell us a few things as you go through the car, and hopefully it is stock enough to give some answers:

You don't have a pod switch, so where does the power (black wire) to the speedo indicator light come from?

What are the manufacturer's numbers on the turn signal can, and what are the numbers on the terminals?

Do hazards work with ign key off?

I thought at first it was a 'factory 12v' sticker, but it looks more like an electric mailbox flag... what is that red thing w/ a wire at left side of dash?

Whatever you do, IF the wiring is stock, it would be great if you could make a wiring diagram for early emergency-flasher buses with no dash light when you get it straightened out.
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[Eric&Barb]

[EverettB]

[62DoKaGuy]

Yes, ‘62s had factory 4-ways but with a standard black knob. No dash flasher near the fuel gauge either.

I’ve always found the lack of a ‘62 diagram annoying and just piece together from earlier and later model diagrams to make it work.
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[Eric&Barb]

[70bus]

I never found a start date for the system in general, but
Date introduced
29 Nov. 62 -15 Dec. 62

Emergency light (USA)
Now: Control light for
emergency light (M 24)

is the time frame each model apparently gets the dash flasher, OR a lighted knob. Or both?

And

6 Apr. 63
17 Apr . 63
19 June 63

Flashing indicator relay
6 and 12 Volt
No w: Simplified control system

could mean the t/s relay, because the hazard circuit certainly ISN'T simplified!

After June there are pages missing, so no clue if there's more detail later.

Anyways, you folks know more than I, but that's what I was able to dig out of Prog Refinements
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Raul the 65 singlecab

Karl the 70 nine-seater

[EverettB]

Progressive Refinements dash light entry in the Gallery:

1964-65 have a red colored knob with no light.

You posted this in the past in another thread with a good pic of the red knob:

[70bus]

So the progressive refinements seems to point to late Nov/early Dec 62 as when buses got a dash hazard light above the wiper switch. I don't know if making the knob red with letters 'simplified' the circuit, so can't say that doesn't refer to something else. Any Spring 63 owners want to chime in?

Still no start date for the system as a whole, but Ithik it's discussed in the forums somewhere.

As far as power for the speedo indicator, in 61 it comes from a keyed circuit, so if a hazard system works with key off the wiring would more resemble 63. And since there isn't a pod switch, it could be powered straight from a fuse, or elsewhere like maybe a wiper switch. Do 62 wipers work with key off? :) Power can't go straight to relay as it's a K, ground, from indicator bulb, not 49a.

There can't be many of these transitional buses out there, but that's all the more reason to puzzle out a wiring diagram for them. Some people obsess over SO-42 screws, some obsess over dash wiring...
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70 Neunsitzer
65 Pritschenwagen
"If Von Dutch was alive, he'd walk in there with a pistol and shoot these people." - Robert Williams

Raul the 65 singlecab

Karl the 70 nine-seater

[swharris]

[swharris]

[BarryL]

[70bus]

He means 'a red knob, which doesn't light,' and not 'red knob and no light'
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70 Neunsitzer
65 Pritschenwagen
"If Von Dutch was alive, he'd walk in there with a pistol and shoot these people." - Robert Williams

Raul the 65 singlecab

Karl the 70 nine-seater

[Eric&Barb]

[EverettB]

[Kommercial]

To confirm your statement swharris, yes 62 had wiring that doesn't match the online Diagrams. I ran into that on my june62 with flashers. I need to get around to finishing my altered color diagram.

[swharris]