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pdx6169 Samba Member
Joined: May 30, 2023 Posts: 55 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Wed May 28, 2025 5:36 pm Post subject: Outlet barb came out of fuel pump |
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A routine annual fuel line replacement took a sour turn when the barb pulled out of my dome top fuel pump.
What are my options here? It didn't take much force to pull it out so it's probably for the best that this happened now rather than while driving. I lost a Bus to a fire in the late 90s and would prefer the best fix possible. I'm planning to attend a show in 10 days and now that may be in doubt - I'd rather fix it right than fast.
TIA for suggestions! _________________ 1961 Type 1 Convertible
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wcfvw69 Samba Purist

Joined: June 10, 2004 Posts: 13680 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Wed May 28, 2025 6:07 pm Post subject: Re: Outlet barb came out of fuel pump |
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Remove both tubes. Scuff the brass tube end with 180 grit paper to give it a tooth that goes into the bore. Apply Loctite green retaining compound and hammer BOTH tubes back in with the Loctite. If you apply it right, the tube won't come out again. _________________ Contact me at [email protected]
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pdx6169 Samba Member
Joined: May 30, 2023 Posts: 55 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Wed May 28, 2025 6:11 pm Post subject: Re: Outlet barb came out of fuel pump |
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wcfvw69 wrote: |
Remove both tubes. Scuff the brass tube end with 180 grit paper to give it a tooth that goes into the bore. Apply Loctite green retaining compound and hammer BOTH tubes back in with the Loctite. If you apply it right, the tube won't come out again. |
Thanks! To clarify, this is the dome top pump that has a hard line threaded in, the only tube I see is the outlet to the carb. Do I have that correct or am I missing something? _________________ 1961 Type 1 Convertible
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wcfvw69 Samba Purist

Joined: June 10, 2004 Posts: 13680 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Wed May 28, 2025 6:58 pm Post subject: Re: Outlet barb came out of fuel pump |
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pdx6169 wrote: |
wcfvw69 wrote: |
Remove both tubes. Scuff the brass tube end with 180 grit paper to give it a tooth that goes into the bore. Apply Loctite green retaining compound and hammer BOTH tubes back in with the Loctite. If you apply it right, the tube won't come out again. |
Thanks! To clarify, this is the dome top pump that has a hard line threaded in, the only tube I see is the outlet to the carb. Do I have that correct or am I missing something? |
Oops, sorry, I quickly looked at the pump picture. Yes, just the tube that came out. The screw in inlet is fine.  _________________ Contact me at [email protected]
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**Now rebuilding throttle bodies for VW's and Porsche's**
**Restored German Bosch distributors for sale or I can restore yours**
**Restored German Pierburg fuel pumps for sale or I can restore yours**
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pdx6169 Samba Member
Joined: May 30, 2023 Posts: 55 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Wed May 28, 2025 7:16 pm Post subject: Re: Outlet barb came out of fuel pump |
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wcfvw69 wrote: |
pdx6169 wrote: |
wcfvw69 wrote: |
Remove both tubes. Scuff the brass tube end with 180 grit paper to give it a tooth that goes into the bore. Apply Loctite green retaining compound and hammer BOTH tubes back in with the Loctite. If you apply it right, the tube won't come out again. |
Thanks! To clarify, this is the dome top pump that has a hard line threaded in, the only tube I see is the outlet to the carb. Do I have that correct or am I missing something? |
Oops, sorry, I quickly looked at the pump picture. Yes, just the tube that came out. The screw in inlet is fine.  |
Thanks again - one more question for you: Which green Loctite do you use? There are several different Loctite retaining compounds - 609, 620, 640, etc. _________________ 1961 Type 1 Convertible
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VW_Jimbo  Samba Member

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Posted: Wed May 28, 2025 7:41 pm Post subject: Re: Outlet barb came out of fuel pump |
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638 is what I use! _________________ Jimbo
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Cusser Samba Member

Joined: October 02, 2006 Posts: 33029 Location: Hot Arizona
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Posted: Thu May 29, 2025 7:56 am Post subject: Re: Outlet barb came out of fuel pump |
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pdx6169 wrote: |
It didn't take much force to pull it out so it's probably for the best that this happened now rather than while driving. |
YES !
Do the fix as written above. And I'd still add a safety wire. This is not my photo, but shows what one can do; I wouldn't do exactly as shown in the photo, but you could do something similar. And consider similar on a pressed-in fitting on a carburetor. If yours is a show vehicle, you could remove that once you get to the show, and then re-do for the trip home.
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KTPhil  Samba Member

Joined: April 06, 2006 Posts: 35832 Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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Posted: Thu May 29, 2025 8:03 am Post subject: Re: Outlet barb came out of fuel pump |
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Similarly, I rolled my inlet pipe between two coarse files to dimple it so it would stay put. _________________ Current Fleet:
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gt1953 Samba Member

Joined: May 08, 2002 Posts: 13947 Location: White Mountains Arizona
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Posted: Fri May 30, 2025 12:23 pm Post subject: Re: Outlet barb came out of fuel pump |
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I would use a files on the tube with a cross hatch pattern and JB weld it in place. Also do ad this to the pump to so the pin does not fall out or have a chance to fall out. A lil homemade item front of pump and rear.
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pdx6169 Samba Member
Joined: May 30, 2023 Posts: 55 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2025 4:19 pm Post subject: Re: Outlet barb came out of fuel pump |
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Thanks all for weighing in. I believe this has been repaired. Just went for a successful test drive.
Per wcfvw69's advice, I scuffed the end of the outlet tube with sandpaper. I used 120 because I didn't have 180 on hand - just a bit of light scuffing was needed as the brass is soft. I rubbed the paper horizontally and vertically along the tube to make a bit of a cross pattern. I then cleaned the outlet tube with brake cleaner, and used brake cleaner on a q-tip to clean the inside of the bore.
I then used a tiny acrylic craft brush to apply a thin layer of sleeve retainer to the tube and inside the bore. I went with Eskonne 638, which appears to be an Amazon imitation of Loctite 638. I then gently tapped it home. The existing knurling on the tube did not go in all the way, but looking at the photo in my original post, the knurling left teeth marks inside the bore which indicate that the tube is about as far in as it was before.
I let the retaining compound cure for a day. I didn't go nuts tugging on the tube to test it but it feels very solid. I put a new fuel line and clamp on, and topped it off with a simple loop of safety wire around the clamp and fuel pump. I don't think it will be going anywhere . I will probably just leave the wire on for shows - I often find shows to be educational and maybe seeing my setup would help someone else.
Went for a drive around the neighborhood, everything stayed in place and I didn't notice any leakage or fuel odors. _________________ 1961 Type 1 Convertible
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my3bugs Samba Member
Joined: June 18, 2003 Posts: 825 Location: Moreno Valley
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Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2025 4:27 pm Post subject: Re: Outlet barb came out of fuel pump |
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i have the same issue with a 34 pict 3 carb im working on . i have that green 638 loctite in my amazon cart . |
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Cusser Samba Member

Joined: October 02, 2006 Posts: 33029 Location: Hot Arizona
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Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2025 6:43 pm Post subject: Re: Outlet barb came out of fuel pump |
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I like the safety wire.
My own 1970 VW had factory crimp-clamps on the lines at the fuel pump, and about 1975 the one to the carburetor came loose and spilled raw gas over the engine area and I drove like 5 miles like that (didn't notice a performance issue), got home and liquid gas was all over the engine tins by the distributor, was a miracle it didn't go up in flames. I was so scared I just let all that gas evaporate, then added my own clamps and safety wires.
I was extremely lucky. _________________ 1970 VW (owned since 1972) and 1971 VW Convertible (owned since 1976), second owner of each. The '71 now has the 1835 engine, swapped from the '70. Second owner of each. 1988 Mazda B2200 truck, 1998 Frontier, 2014 Yukon, 2004 Frontier King Cab. All manual transmission except for the Yukon. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335294 http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335297 |
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Eric&Barb Samba Member

Joined: September 19, 2004 Posts: 25875 Location: Olympia Wash Rinse & Repeat
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Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2025 9:57 am Post subject: Re: Outlet barb came out of fuel pump |
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The German fuel line grips the brass tube tighter and tighter just like Chinese finger cuffs the more one pulls. Best to use a flat tipped screwdriver to push against the hose end to move the hose off the brass tube. _________________ In Stereo, Where Available! |
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OldSchoolVW's  Samba Member

Joined: July 03, 2020 Posts: 1396 Location: San Diego
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Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2025 12:14 pm Post subject: Re: Outlet barb came out of fuel pump |
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Eric&Barb wrote: |
The German fuel line grips the brass tube tighter and tighter just like Chinese finger cuffs the more one pulls. Best to use a flat tipped screwdriver to push against the hose end to move the hose off the brass tube. |
When I install fresh hose, I just run it several inches longer than necessary. That way if I need to remove the hose, I just carefully cut it away lengthwise at the brass tube. No need to pull on the hose. Since I have extra hose to work with, I can then just trim off the cut portion and reattach the hose. _________________ Tom
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my3bugs Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2025 11:04 am Post subject: Re: Outlet barb came out of fuel pump |
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i just got a bottle of the loctite 638 delivered from Amazon , i thought there must be a mistake its such a big bottle 50 Ml , it was 16 dollars . i thought i was getting a smaller amount . i see some sellers asking 75 bucks for the same size bottle on amazon ........i only have 1 tube to install , this is a few life times supply for me . |
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meranda Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2025 10:59 pm Post subject: Re: Outlet barb came out of fuel pump |
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gt1953 wrote: |
I would use a files on the tube with a cross hatch pattern and JB weld it in place. Also do ad this to the pump to so the pin does not fall out or have a chance to fall out. A lil homemade item front of pump and rear.
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That is very elegant. The only side of road failure I have had in 25 years has been the pump rod! _________________ Currently filling the garage
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