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aquifer  Samba Member
Joined: August 30, 2021 Posts: 323 Location: Nebraska
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Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2025 1:19 pm Post subject: Aftermarket aluminum wheels - lug nut torque |
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These aftermarket aluminum rims came on my 67. There are studs that thread into the drums, and lug nuts that thread on the studs. The nuts have washers and press flat against the wheels - not beveled. The stud size is 12x1.5mm pitch.
I have no idea what brand they are. No markings anyplace.
I broke a stud while torquing to 85#. Apparently 85 is too tight. Fortunately it was only the second one I’d done, so I tightened them all to 65# which doesn’t seem tight enough.
I know it’s only a guess, but what torque do you think would be appropriate for these lug nuts?
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Glenn  Mr. 010

Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 79418 Location: Sneaking up behind you
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Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2025 1:30 pm Post subject: Re: Aftermarket aluminum wheels - lug nut torque |
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80ft-lbs. _________________ Glenn
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daveblank Samba Member
Joined: November 07, 2024 Posts: 119 Location: TX
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Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2025 8:41 pm Post subject: Re: Aftermarket aluminum wheels - lug nut torque |
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I have the same wheels with the mag shank lug nuts on mine. I torque them to 80ftlb. My center caps say Empi. |
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mukluk Samba Member

Joined: October 18, 2012 Posts: 7452 Location: Clyde, TX
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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2025 5:36 am Post subject: Re: Aftermarket aluminum wheels - lug nut torque |
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Book spec is 72ftlb with clean dry threads. If you use the normal recommended torque and apply any sort of lube on the threads, you can easily exceed the intended tension and damage or break them. _________________ 1960 Ragtop w/Semaphores "Inga" |
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aquifer  Samba Member
Joined: August 30, 2021 Posts: 323 Location: Nebraska
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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2025 9:45 am Post subject: Re: Aftermarket aluminum wheels - lug nut torque |
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Thanks for the advice. So 85 was likely a little too tight, but the fact that it snapped the stud bothers me. I wouldn't think the line between the recommended torque and snapping the stud would be that narrow (80 vs 85).
I suppose it's possible that the PO or a tire shop at some point just hammered on it with an impact and stressed the stud(s) too much, which eventually led to it snapping on me. Is that a logical conclusion? Or is the stud-snapping window really that narrow? Hopefully none of the other ones snap, but I did find a source so at least I can replace them if needed.
Thanks again. _________________ Parts needed:
Front & rear NOS or used OEM door panels for a '67 in the original Gazelle color (dark tan/light brown).
Also looking for used white headliner pieces, both perforated and non-perforated. |
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74 Thing Samba Member

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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2025 9:52 am Post subject: Re: Aftermarket aluminum wheels - lug nut torque |
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Some of the studs sold are crappy material and can stretch or break.
I torque mine to 90 ft lbs then recheck after a few miles. |
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viiking Samba Member

Joined: May 10, 2013 Posts: 3130 Location: Sydney Australia
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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2025 4:58 pm Post subject: Re: Aftermarket aluminum wheels - lug nut torque |
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aquifer wrote: |
Thanks for the advice. So 85 was likely a little too tight, but the fact that it snapped the stud bothers me. I wouldn't think the line between the recommended torque and snapping the stud would be that narrow (80 vs 85).
I suppose it's possible that the PO or a tire shop at some point just hammered on it with an impact and stressed the stud(s) too much, which eventually led to it snapping on me. Is that a logical conclusion? Or is the stud-snapping window really that narrow? Hopefully none of the other ones snap, but I did find a source so at least I can replace them if needed.
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Look up elastic v plastic deformation.
Your assumption about the tyre/tire shop is correct. Every well engineered part will have a much larger allowance for "safety" in % terms than your apparent 5 ft-lbs difference between the torque spec and the failure spec.
If one has broken I would suggest you need to inspect and maybe replace all of them. Once you have reached plastic deformation, failure is the end result. Now when that might happen is the unknown. _________________ 1968 1500 RHD Lotus White Beetle since birth. In the hospital for major surgery
1966 Lancia Flavia Pininfarina Coupe - in the waiting room
Discharged: 1983 Vanagon, 1974 1800 Microbus,1968 Low Light,1968 Type 3 |
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