Type One Engine in a Type Four Bus?

MrBreeze · Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 2:10 pm Post subject:

Hmmm....type 4 vs type 1?

Don't make me get Jake in here Wink

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DurocShark · Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 2:17 pm Post subject:

keifernet · Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 2:34 pm Post subject:

I don't think this is a type4 vs type 1 thread? Confused

More like keep the correct engine in the bus if want the best results long term. Wink

ratwell · Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 4:58 pm Post subject:

nemobuscaptain · Samba Member Joined: March 07, 2002 Posts: 3874

Conversions are always HARDER than advertized.

Agreed. We know what you meant Richard.

PS I don't doubt that Raby builds a nice engine. I also have no doubt that most of will never spend $5000+ for an engine.
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DurocShark · Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 6:21 am Post subject:

Volksfolk74 · Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 11:49 am Post subject:

I Agree with all! I had a 74 bus, prior to any vw knowledge,.....the single, not original, carb went down in flames on the side of the highway. Thus starting my first semester at VDUBU Laughing

Back then I thougt I was saving money and time and went with the Type 1..... Yeah it worked fine had lots of road trips but I was always always worried that something was coming.....I think I gave myself an ulcer! I did lose a pistion ring on NY turnpike once, it was like a James Bond movie......Blind them with the smoke screen! If I could and will do over again I would take the time to put a pancake in....my .02.
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ratwell · Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 12:23 pm Post subject:

keifernet · Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 2:29 pm Post subject:

I was gonna say Jake's 5K and up engines are nowhere close to stock. And I'm not sure just how many end up in daily driver buses anyway.

I think his market is a much different crowd than we comprise on this board.

Amskeptic · Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 10:25 pm Post subject:

If I wasn't so leery of replacement parts quality, I would love to become a stock engine rebuilder during the winter months. I cringe and get facial tics when I see some of the assembly quality out there. I have tremendous faith in these engines when they are correctly assembled, but look at the lifter situation, it would be too hard of a hit against my pride and investment to have a customer suffer a failure due to lousy parts.
When German parts were readily available, and the engines I was working on were only into their first or second overhaul, it was a pleasure.
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ratwell · Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 11:56 pm Post subject:

Are you basically saying the parts aren't good enough to build an engine for yourself? How many engines are you planning on building in a winter?
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Amskeptic · Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2004 7:43 am Post subject:

Of course I will rebuild my own engine when necessary. And of course I will help anyone in my travels rebuild their engines if and when necessary. I was only saying that my love of building engines has been tempered to such a degree that I will NOT make a habit of rebuilding engines in any dedicated formal contractual sort of way where I have to rely on vendors for a steady stream of parts that NONE of us can trust. I can handle watching my own rebuild flatten a lifter and send crap to the cooler, Ratwell, that's called Life, but if it was a customer calling me, a customer who paid me to do the job and who was not in it with me getting their hands dirty, and who just wanted a nice engine for the next 75,000 miles and is stranded in Calgary at 1,000 miles because of a metallurgical failure, I would be a lot more upset. I hate it when anyone puts their heart and soul in a project and it blows up due to indifference beyond their control or survey. Does that answer you?
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keifernet · Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2004 11:44 am Post subject:

I guess it would depend on your parts source(s)? I'm pretty sure you can still find german or a good quality lifter/camshafts?

ratwell · Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2004 12:01 pm Post subject:

I agree: don't build an engine you're not confident of. I asked how many because if you were to build one or two over a winter you could find enough NOS parts on eBay to satisfy your requirements. I've never queried the dealer about lifter availability but that's a possibility also with ever depleting inventory.

I've been toying with the idea of building an engine or two for fun on a regular basis. I have a few sets of lifters (hydraulic only) but I couldn't sustain it so I'd opt for building a solid lifter engines using ceramics and charge $300 more.

I feel the profiteering is best left to the Raby's and AVP's out there. Given that building a stock engine from NOS quality parts is going to cost more than an AVP rebuild even considering that I wouldn't charge for my labor, I do it for the fun of it having a few signature stockers out there driving around.
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keifernet · Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2004 12:25 pm Post subject:

Can't stock german solid lifters be re -radius ground and coated with Polydyne?

I've had it done to stock type 1 lifters...

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