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Mr. Motorhead Mad Scientist
Joined: January 06, 2004 Posts: 717 Location: Practitioner of 36hp alchemy
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Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 1:38 pm Post subject: |
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It's defineatly a do-able thing Alan.Did a few numbers on just a stock displacement with some minor cam and head mods and that came out to around 56hp (on paper).70-80 HP does not seem far fetched with some displacement changes.The whole point of this exercise is to use the ol' noodle and not just go out and buy a bunch of "stuff" off the shelf to make a performance engine. _________________ 30 years experience in the sales of new and used auto parts!
36 horsepower parts for sale at http://www.aircooledresearch.com/
Or the new site at http://www.bugparts.com
Check out the Bonneville project:
http://aircooledresearch.com/docs/thebonnevilleproject.html#
"All limitations are self imposed."
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Alan Willis Banned
Joined: November 22, 2004 Posts: 4181 Location: booted from the SEWR and stalked in here
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Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 2:46 pm Post subject: |
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That mtor wasn't "off the shelf" either,my dad toyed with the idea and it made good power,plus looked sano in the back of his '55! He would show it to people and they would laugh at it saying it had to be underpowered,then proved them wrong by hauling ass up hill! _________________ die schwarzen Schafe #666 |
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spookymulder Samba Proletariat
Joined: January 02, 2004 Posts: 3298 Location: I'm either at 95608, 97537 or 94708 only my CPA knows for sure
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Richard Roth Samba Member
Joined: April 03, 2004 Posts: 952
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Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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I want to be by the traps when the "cable brake" guys go by !
P.S. I still dream about Hornbecker's 23-window. |
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Aaron Samba Luddite
Joined: November 20, 2002 Posts: 1838 Location: WA
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Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2005 10:34 am Post subject: Distributors |
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I have heard people talk about the "power curve" of some distributors being better then others. Can someone explain what the benefits of the different (centrifugal vs vacuum ect.) distributors are. What should I be looking for at the next swap meet. |
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Mr. Motorhead Mad Scientist
Joined: January 06, 2004 Posts: 717 Location: Practitioner of 36hp alchemy
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Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 8:20 am Post subject: |
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I've sourced a good deal of parts here lately and have decided to go ahead with a 36hp catalog soon.All the normal things to build an engine.......pushrod tubes,lifter sets,gaskets,a variety of different cranks,cams,rebuilt rods,heads (performance and stock),sumps,manifold and linkage kits for dual carbs,etc.Many of these custom fab peices I'm doing right in my own shop.You'll see me at Bakersfield this weekend if you go with good deal of things to look at.We are even in the process of doing a custom exhaust. I think this stuff would be fun to run ala dry lakes style to see how fast it will go......... _________________ 30 years experience in the sales of new and used auto parts!
36 horsepower parts for sale at http://www.aircooledresearch.com/
Or the new site at http://www.bugparts.com
Check out the Bonneville project:
http://aircooledresearch.com/docs/thebonnevilleproject.html#
"All limitations are self imposed."
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bill may Samba Member
Joined: August 27, 2003 Posts: 14160 Location: san diego,ca
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RareAir Samba Member
Joined: May 11, 2002 Posts: 14577 Location: 18 miles North of the border
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53 0val Samba Professor
Joined: July 03, 2003 Posts: 11396 Location: Irvine, CA
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Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 8:56 am Post subject: |
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I have vented valve covers on my '53. They are vented with a tube the divides the valve cover in half from top to bottom. The one in the picture seems to have the tube. _________________ "What a fool believes he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away." Dobee, Dobee, Do |
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twinwindows Samba Pimp
Joined: December 08, 2000 Posts: 4086 Location: So.Cal. Highland Park GFK!
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Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 3:15 pm Post subject: |
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What about us 25HP guys, I wanna race my 49???? _________________ CRG
My builds
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Yeah, everyone's now doing it GFK style . . . everythinig is covert until the finished product is revealed. |
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RareAir Samba Member
Joined: May 11, 2002 Posts: 14577 Location: 18 miles North of the border
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Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 8:58 pm Post subject: |
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The latest issue of Hot VWs magazine (May 05) has an interesting article on some cool new 25/36hp speed goodies including the valve covers shown above. Stuff like cams, oil coolers, 28PCI venturis etc.... Good stuff for sure. _________________ 1947 Typ 11a
1954 Typ 117
1956 Typ 151
1959 Typ 117
1959 Typ 265
1961 356B
1966 Typ 151
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Mr. Motorhead Mad Scientist
Joined: January 06, 2004 Posts: 717 Location: Practitioner of 36hp alchemy
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Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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And just think,you all got to see these ideas unfold right here on the Samba FIRST before anybody else thoght of doing a write up in any Mag about it.How many people are doing this with 36hp?More than just me I'm sure now that it sounds like a good idea.I'm setting up a new site just for 36hp parts,it's in my tag line.Parts that are new,rebuilt and NOS for a sane price.I'll have a few things up on sale at the new site in a couple days,so I hope you'll visit. _________________ 30 years experience in the sales of new and used auto parts!
36 horsepower parts for sale at http://www.aircooledresearch.com/
Or the new site at http://www.bugparts.com
Check out the Bonneville project:
http://aircooledresearch.com/docs/thebonnevilleproject.html#
"All limitations are self imposed."
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Eric Outland Samba Member
Joined: January 22, 2004 Posts: 407
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 8:51 pm Post subject: Vintage Motor Restorations |
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I would love to be out on the line with my 36hp Judson waiting for the Green--at least Im guarenteed 0-60MPH in at least 15 seconds. Sweet! |
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John Moxon Samba Moderator
Joined: March 07, 2004 Posts: 13958 Location: Southampton U.K.
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Mr. Motorhead Mad Scientist
Joined: January 06, 2004 Posts: 717 Location: Practitioner of 36hp alchemy
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Posted: Sun May 22, 2005 12:31 pm Post subject: |
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Since there is so much interest in things 36hp,let's bump this to the top again with some pictures of some head reconstruction........these are real meaty heads,so there is lots of room to do "things".None of it is rocket science and it's all been done before.Finally got a little time to make a boring plate to do the milling on the port area as it needs to be perpendicular to the valve cover seating area.Bear in mind that this is just the rough and not the finish,the port will be somewhat larger when done with the studs relocated to reflect the new port size.Stock head is shown for comparison.Only slight mods for the cylinder tins need to be made to allow for the manifold base plate that will use a paper gasket rather than a copper crush ring. Next up is 33mm intake seats and porting and polishing the exhaust.Stay tuned,more to come.
_________________ 30 years experience in the sales of new and used auto parts!
36 horsepower parts for sale at http://www.aircooledresearch.com/
Or the new site at http://www.bugparts.com
Check out the Bonneville project:
http://aircooledresearch.com/docs/thebonnevilleproject.html#
"All limitations are self imposed."
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vdubjim Samba Member
Joined: March 12, 2004 Posts: 684 Location: okc
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Posted: Sat May 28, 2005 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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how about these wierd heads i scored, no markings other than the stock vw ones. Homemade? Prototype? i dunno, should be cool.
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Dave Samba Elder
Joined: July 11, 2002 Posts: 2693 Location: The Forest Moon of Endor, in the Redwoods
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Posted: Sun May 29, 2005 11:35 am Post subject: |
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Mr. Motorhead wrote: |
And just think,you all got to see these ideas unfold right here on the Samba FIRST before anybody else thoght of doing a write up in any Mag about it.. |
I had talked with Fred Simpson, of Performance Technology, about spreading the 36hp intake manifold stud pattern out to 1600 single-port size, which is something Fred had done OVER TWENTY YEARS AGO.....
Fred made a 36 horse-cased engine run 13's in the quarter-mile, in a stock weight Sedan, back in the mid - 80's... _________________ 2003 Samba Chummie Winner- Best Story
"Those that matter, don't mind,
and those that mind, don't matter"
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bill may Samba Member
Joined: August 27, 2003 Posts: 14160 Location: san diego,ca
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Mr. Motorhead Mad Scientist
Joined: January 06, 2004 Posts: 717 Location: Practitioner of 36hp alchemy
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Posted: Sun May 29, 2005 3:42 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry you took what I said out of context,Dave.I was refering to the current magazine write up,not the originality of the ideas them self.If you read one of my recent posts I say right there that that this is neither rocket science or any thing new.This is kind of a rehash for me when I did the same thing from about 15 years ago.It was nothing new then either.Planning to do something and actually doing it are two different things.I'd really like to see more people actually do this rather than talk about it.It took me a suprisingly small amount of time to source the things I don't have the equipment to do (which amounted to crank and cam grinding),and even less time to make the tooling for the machines I do have in order to do 36hp parts.So from someone who is actually "doing" something I have to ask,what is keeping you from doing rather than just "planning"? _________________ 30 years experience in the sales of new and used auto parts!
36 horsepower parts for sale at http://www.aircooledresearch.com/
Or the new site at http://www.bugparts.com
Check out the Bonneville project:
http://aircooledresearch.com/docs/thebonnevilleproject.html#
"All limitations are self imposed."
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Richard Roth Samba Member
Joined: April 03, 2004 Posts: 952
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Posted: Mon May 30, 2005 5:38 am Post subject: |
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"Vdubjim",
Can you post some more pictures of those heads ?
_________________ The problem with reality is that there's no background music !
1966 Empi GTV MKIV
1954 Kabriolett Beetle
1953 Porsche 356 1500S
1957 Cable brake standard model
1962 cable brake standard model
1956 23 window Samba
1960 Austin Healey 3000
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